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Re: The worm author finally revealed!
From: "David Howe" <DaveHowe () cmn sharp-uk co uk>
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:14:40 -0000
at Friday, January 31, 2003 7:52 PM, madsaxon <madsaxon () direcway com> was seen to say:
That happens where I work, too. Every new patch breaks something else, and since a fair amount of our software is custom-designed, we have to get the vendors to rush out and figure out how to patch their stuff to be compatible with the new patch. That costs beaucoup bucks, and meanwhile our clients are screaming because their application is down. The next time a patch comes out, management is very reluctant to allow us to install it, so we have to do a cost-benefit analysis on which would be the greater evil: leaving the vulnerability unpatched or pissing off our clients with yet another period of downtime. If we don't patch, we get called "irresponsible" and "lazy."
Certainly true. then you have the wonderful microsoft habit of a later patch overwriting (and therefore silently backing out) an earlier patch's files, and the fact that some sites *legally can't* install the more recent service packs/patches as microsofts new licencing agreement conflicts with a legal duty of privacy for the data processed on that machine.
I personally argued strongly against Microsoft servers in the first place, but of course that was pooh-poohed as just sour grapes from an old Unix fossil.
Unfortunately, its a cascade - new features of IE require windows servers, which require users to be using IE..... _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: The worm author finally revealed! Paul Schmehl (Jan 31)
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- Re: The worm author finally revealed! yossarian (Feb 01)
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- RE: The worm author finally revealed! Ron DuFresne (Jan 31)
- Re: The worm author finally revealed! Jonathan Rickman (Jan 31)
- Re: The worm author finally revealed! Douglas F. Calvert (Jan 31)
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- Re: The worm author finally revealed! David Howe (Feb 03)
- Re: The worm author finally revealed! David Howe (Feb 03)
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