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Re: Authorities eye MSBlaster suspect


From: "Ben Nelson" <lists () venom600 org>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:57:12 -0600

You need to keep in mind that affected != infected.  Many of us admins who
don't even administrate a single windows box were affected by amount of
bandwidth consumed by people who were infected.  This thing effectively
created a denial of service on many networks and any host trying to use
that network (be it an infected windows box or one of my hundreds of unix
boxes) was, at the very least, significantly slowed down.

--Ben

On August 29, 10:18 am "morning_wood" <se_cur_ity () hotmail com> wrote:
if the worm was active in anticipation of a patch that intoduced a new
exploit vector and it took advantage of that, is'nt the vendor (
microsoft ) to blame then? As well there was plenty of advanced warning
on this exploit long before msblast was an issue. It seems to me that it
is each admins responsiblity, if they were affected ( infected ) not the
coder. if this were the case the LastStage(of)Delerium would be the
blamed party for developing and releasing the exploit, but alas.. they
are not of USA orgin. SUE LITIGATE BLAME PROCECUTE

as long as the general public remains uneducated ( and many Fortune500
admins) we will continue
to see this type of action against coders for blame, not the people
actualy responsible for allowing
thier infrastructure to become targets in the first place. im sure this
ignorance is a byproduct of
the weak mind of most Americans as they are in a constant state to blame
other for thier own
problems, this can be seen everywhere in todays American society...
commonly refered as to the "poor me" syndrome..
Q. why did you murder the victim?
A. my father never told me he loved me
( real answer - you pulled the triger )

Q. why was my network compromised?
A. because of someone else
( real answer - you suck at internet )


muh 2 bytes,
morning_wood

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Ballowe" <hangman-fulldisclosure () steelballs org>
To: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Authorities eye MSBlaster suspect


 On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 12:14:51PM -0000, 00005702 () no-id com wrote:

 And this kid is dumb enough be be living in the U.S.A. man, when are
 people going to learn, next we will here that he has been charged
 with every penny the worm caused and will be sentence under the new
 and ever improving Terrorist act.

 Interesting -- the net cost of the worm is actually a net $0.00. For
 every penny that a company chalks up as a cost to the worm, some
 other company must be chalking up the cost as a profit from the worm.

 -Charlie

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