Re: The home user problem returns

[Mason Schmitt <mason () schmitt ca>]

> > Are my ideas ill-conceived?  
>
> no no, that was a general comment about Marcus being right (don't tell
> him I said that!)... ;~)

You shouldn't have CC'd him then ;)

> > What specifically do you think is bullshit?  Or is it just my approach
> > in general?  The better I understand this problem the better off I'm
> > going to be.
>
>
> Wrong tack.  My comment was not in opposition to your comments, but in
> something akin to agreement.

Ah, sorry about that.

> > N in a positive reinforcement scenario (short term)
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > If as a group, we like to preach least privilege, why do we keep trying
> > to tell home users what they _shouldn't_ be doing?  That sounds like
> > default allow.  Why not tell them what they should be doing?  It's going
> > to be a much shorter list.
>
>
> "Make things as simple as possible but no simpler. "?  :~)

Yeah!

> > Getting back to computers and the Internet... If these sorts of controls
> > and industry maturity were in place, home users wouldn't be such a
> > problem.  The big problem is that the Internet right now is very much
> > like the "Wild West" - it's young, immature, un-controlled and much
> > about how it should work is still unknown.  It just needs to mature.
>
>
> The problem we are dealing with is that many consumers do not understand
> what electricity is or why they should expect their razor to shave their
> face but not be able to cook a well-turned prime rib - or explode
> violently and tear off their arms, for that matter.  They are
> effectively Australopithicenes and we need to bring them up to at least
> Victorian standards so they don't beat the computer with a stick to kill
> the demons inside.

I'd love to see someone try to do that :)  That would be immensely
entertaining.

> > > Lucy: "You can't subtract five from three!"
> >  
> > > Linus: "You can if you're stupid!"
> >
> > I hadn't heard that exchange before.  That's a good one :)
>
>
> I got a Peanuts book when I was four for Christmas with that cartoon in
> it.  A few months later my dad taught me about negative numbers, and the
> fact that something so obviously impossible could turn out to be so
> completely wrong so quickly has always stuck with me.  All sorts of sh*t
> is possible if you just do it...

Yup.  It often just takes a willingness to look at other possible ways
of approaching a problem.

--
Mason
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