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RE: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd
From: "Eugene Kuznetsov" <eugene () datapower com>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:24:59 -0400
(and it is, so that's a safe assumption) the 2 factor authenticationworksonly because it's harder to bypass than a password. If everyone was
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The problem with that analogy is that the bear will be much more motivated and persistent when the runner is coated in honey (or credit card information).
There's an interesting thought here, one that really takes us into the realm of epidemiology or toxicology. Bears aside, what is the expected, normal rate of such incidents? Is it getting worse? Better? Risk factors? Correlation? Anyone know of any papers that try to think of computer security incidents like "[awful-disease] clusters"? P.S. As for outrunning bears, I don't think I like that analogy much, especially in a complex regulatory environment, automated attack tools and increasing emphasis on using compromised machines or data as merely a link in a chain of malicious activity, rather than an end in itself. P.P.S. Credit card theft is actually one of the least terrifying or damaging things that can happen. \\ Eugene Kuznetsov, Chairman & CTO : eugene () datapower com \\ DataPower Technology, Inc. : Web Services security \\ http://www.datapower.com : XML-aware networks _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- RE: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Richards, Jim (Jun 20)
- RE: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Eugene Kuznetsov (Jun 20)
- RE: Broken Analogies (was: Transitive Trust) Ben Nagy (Jun 21)
- RE: Broken Analogies (was: Transitive Trust) Brian Loe (Jun 21)
- RE: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Eugene Kuznetsov (Jun 20)
- RE: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Paul Melson (Jun 21)
- Re: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Kevin Sheldrake (Jun 30)