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Re: Personal Firewall Day?
From: David Lang <david.lang () digitalinsight com>
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:20:41 -0700 (PDT)
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:
Gary Flynn wrote:I think we're addicted to general purpose computing because of its versatility, freedom, and associated potential to innovateGary has put his finger on the one big outstanding flaw in my argument. :( Innovation. The kind of computing environment I think we actually need would dramatically stifle the ability to innovate. But --- AOL users can't innovate within their AOL-sphere and don't appear to miss it. But that's probably because they can apply customizations via the surrounding underlying O/S. The desire to customize is amazingly powerful and cannot be discounted. I think it's the main reason we won't shift to the kind of environment I think we could build that would solve a lot of our computing problems. :( Hey - I didn't say I had all the answers!! Actually, I think I have all the questions! :)
the key to this is to avoid the software being completely different in the two enviroments. if people can use the same program on a stand-alone machine as on the central network server the innovation can continue, you just won't have every joe and jane in the call center experimenting with the companies data (and this is a very good thing, joe and jane in the call center probably don't know what's good for the company as a whole, but they are free to experiment at home) however in the past the centralized apps have been unavailable to the local/remote user, useually either becouse they wouldn't run on the local machine (*nix software that couldn't be used on a PC) or was drasticly overpriced (a few years ago I looked at the server version of wordperfect, $600 per seat while the stand-alone version was selling for $79 before discounts) so everyone ends up doing their own thing and trying to merge the results. the problem then becomes useing this new software in the centralized environment. the X-term (microsoft terminal server/citrix/vnc/etc) approach can be used for apps if all else fails, but as the software matures it should also grow to take advantage of the type of infrastructure that you described in another post to operate more efficiantly. David Lang -- "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Re: Personal Firewall Day?, (continued)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? George Capehart (Oct 05)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 05)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Devdas Bhagat (Oct 06)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Christopher Hicks (Oct 06)
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- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Crispin Cowan (Oct 06)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 06)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Crispin Cowan (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Gary Flynn (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? David Lang (Oct 07)
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- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Devdas Bhagat (Oct 11)
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- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Adam Shostack (Oct 07)
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