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RE: Re: Proverbial appliance vs software based firewall


From: "Stephen Gill" <gillsr () yahoo com>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:03:09 -0500

I guess CP is running on Linux.  I didn’t realize the report stated
secure platform.

-- steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Gill [mailto:gillsr () yahoo com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:41 PM
To: 'pjklist () ekahuna com'; 'firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com'
Subject: Re: Proverbial appliance vs software based firewall

Guns for hire indeed.  I noticed that the report states CP was running
on a 2.4 Ghz XEON with 1GB RAM though no word on what OS.  How can you
compare the fastest hardware of one vendor to the medium solution of
another?  Also, what are the monetary costs associated with each of the
products evaluated?  
 
-sigh-
 
-- steve
 
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 04:43:49 -0400 (EDT) 
From: Christopher Hicks <chicks_at_chicks.net> 

On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Ryan M. Ferris wrote: 

Gigabit throughput is still best achieved by a switched bus
architecture 
and custom ASICS or other real-time micro-kernel OS. The shared bus 
archictecture of even the fastest PCS and gigabit NICs will never be
a 
match for dedicated hardware in processing traffic. 

Bull. I heard the same things about 10M and 100M. PC's will catch up. 
The classic argument seems to be that dedicated-ASIC-based 
firewalls have at least a theoretical performance advantage. 
Various people have been saying, for example, that Checkpoint's 
days are numbered because stuff like Netscreen performs much 
better. 
Now Checkpoint has commissioned a test that purports to show 
their product performs better than "dedicated hardware" from 
Cisco and Netscreen. I would like to have people's opinion 
on this test, in part because my observation of Tolly Group 
test reports is that they're one of these "guns for hire" 
that never writes a bad review for someone who pays them for 
one. 
I just skimmed through it and one thing that stuck out in one 
of the tests was that they were testing only UDP traffic, which 
struck me a bit strange because that has to be a small part of 
typical VPN traffic. 
http://www.checkpoint.com/products/connect/tollyreport.html 
  
--
Philip J. Koenig                                      
pjklist_at_ekahuna.com
Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New
Millenium
 

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