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RE: Interlopers on the WLAN
From: bmonkman () icsalabs com
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:48:22 -0500
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I think a more important aspect to consider is the ability to recover financial losses attributed to such a "crime". While this is probably illegal is it a loss an insurance company would pony compensation for? I would liken it to leaving your house or you car unlocked while unattended. If items are removed without your consent this is clearly a criminal act. However, insurance companies could/would argue that you are not showing due diligence, in fact they could argue you were negligent, by allowing access to your home or vehicle by failing to lock the door. Given this they probably would refuse to compensate you for your losses. The question now is, would this hold true to those who rely on known insecure mechanisms, like WEP, to stop access to the network? Brian Monkman Firewall Programs Manager ICSA Labs 1000 Bent Creek Blvd., Suite 200 Mechanicsburg PA 17050 Phone:717.790.8141 Fax:717.790.8170 www.icsalabs.com PGP Key ID: 0x7E54D5CD
-----Original Message----- From: Philip J. Koenig [mailto:pjklist () ekahuna com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:24 AM To: firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com Subject: [fw-wiz] Interlopers on the WLAN Please forgive if this has been covered before, I'm not reading the group daily these days. Is it reasonable to assume that those who access WLANs without the permission of the owner are violating the same cybercrime laws that apply to any unauthorized access of a computer network? Some have recently argued this is not the case if someone doesn't "enable the security features", but personally I don't see the distinction between this kind of activity and anything normally prohibited by laws such as California Penal Code section 502a and various other cybercrime laws. It doesn't seem to me that the law makes a distinction about whether the network in question was secured or not. (what does 'secured' mean anyway?) TIA, Phil -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist () ekahuna com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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Current thread:
- RE: Interlopers on the WLAN, (continued)
- RE: Interlopers on the WLAN Frank O'Dwyer (Nov 09)
- RE: Interlopers on the WLAN Philip J. Koenig (Nov 09)
- RE: Interlopers on the WLAN Frank O'Dwyer (Nov 09)
- RE: Interlopers on the WLAN Marcus J. Ranum (Nov 06)
- RE: Interlopers on the WLAN Marcus J. Ranum (Nov 06)
- RE: Interlopers on the WLAN Paul Robertson (Nov 06)
- RE: Interlopers on the WLAN Jim Leo (Nov 06)
- RE: Interlopers on the WLAN R. DuFresne (Nov 06)
- Re: Interlopers on the WLAN Kyle R. Hofmann (Nov 05)
- RE: Interlopers on the WLAN Paul Robertson (Nov 05)
- Re: Interlopers on the WLAN Frank O'Dwyer (Nov 09)