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Re: Air gap technologies


From: Frederick M Avolio <fred () avolio com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:07:14 -0500

At 03:32 PM 1/23/01 -0800, Crispin Cowan wrote:
> With the added property that the cable is only ever connected to one side
> or the other at a time?

The assertion from those of us in the skeptics gallery is that a cable
connected to only one end at a time is equivalent to a veeeerrrrry long cable,
i.e. no significant difference.  We await a cogent explanation of how it is
different, and snipe until we get one :-)

And at 02:21 PM 1/23/01 -0800, Aleph One wrote:

A disconnected cable is just as a good to a very close approximation as a
connected cable were there is no software listening to any requests on it

Crispin says that the skeptics viewpoint is that a disconnected cable is like a long connected cable. Aleph says that they ae just as good. I would say "functionally equivalent, but practically -- in implementation -- very different. I maintain a short connected cable is equivalent to a very long connected cable but both are different from a disconnected one. If we cannot agree that a cut cable and a non-cut cable are different then we cannot discuss anything further, can we? :-) I bet we agree if I hand you a wire with copper showing and I tell you to put it in your mouth because, trust me, the wire is very, very long.

And maybe that is a way to look at it. Would you grab onto the copper? Would you if you knew and could prove that the wire was not connected to anything? Would you if I told you that it was physically connected but practically disconnected because the software just wouldn't send electricity down that wire... honest.

I'm thinking that Whale has to build these boxes very big so that you can see the gap (Mind The Gap!), but they'd really be too expensive... :-)

f

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