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Re: DMZ, defined.
From: Adam Shostack <adam () homeport org>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:22:21 -0500
On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 10:47:20AM -0500, David LeBlanc wrote: | If it isn't open to debate, then why would people STILL be arguing about it | here? You apparently have not studied much of the history of language. I Because MJR is being insufficiently strict in his moderation role. :) | >Terms, to be useful, have meanings. | | Yes, and usually several of them. It is a rare entry in Webster's that | doesn't have > 1 definition, and many words have several different, but | related meanings. That's one of the wonderful things about standards - so | many to choose from! Terms having several meanings is a detriment to the advancement of science. Hydrogen means exactly one thing; an atom with one proton, and one electron. I think a hydrogen ion is missing its electron; when I studied chemistry, I'd be sure of it. If I had to specify that by hydrogen, I didn't mean the class of atonms and ions with less than 4 protons, with a balanced charge, etc, etc, it would be much harder to work. As the engineering community, we have a duty to define terms rigorously; your example of the poor definition of FW is an excellent one. If we had a standard that we could agree to, then we wouldn't have the argument. I'm perfectly willing to hand my proxy (ahem) to Steve, if he's willing to be the language police and offer us a glossary. I may not agree with his definitions, but we can argue ad infinitum to little effect, and so, for progress, I'll abstain. Adam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume
Current thread:
- RE: DMZ, defined. Frederick M Avolio (Feb 01)
- RE: DMZ, defined. David LeBlanc (Feb 02)
- Re: DMZ, defined. Adam Shostack (Feb 03)
- Re: DMZ, defined. Joseph S D Yao (Feb 04)
- Administrivia, was Re: DMZ, defined. Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 04)
- Re: DMZ, defined. Roger Nebel (Feb 04)
- Re: DMZ, defined. Adam Shostack (Feb 03)
- RE: DMZ, defined. carson (Feb 03)
- Re: DMZ, defined. Joseph S D Yao (Feb 04)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: DMZ, defined. graham, randy (Feb 02)
- RE: DMZ, defined. Frederick M Avolio (Feb 02)
- RE: DMZ, defined. Crumrine, Gary L (Feb 04)
- RE: DMZ, defined. David LeBlanc (Feb 02)