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Re: Practical Firewall Metrics
From: Leonard Miyata <leonard () geminisecure com>
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:32:01 -0800 (PST)
Considering the near universal rejection of NCSC 'Red Book' network security standards, is this not surprising. To be realistic, we can't expect to have our cake and eat it too. To impose goverment mandated and regulated security standards on the booming networking industry would bring the WARP SPEED advancement of networking technologies to a screeching halt. There are other examples I can point out as well. ALL of the networking texts still claim that ISO OSI networking standards are TECHNICALLY far superior to TCP/IP and with a much more formal OSI standards process when compared to the informal IESG/IETF draft/RFC processs. The proof is in the pudding so to speak.. where is ISO OSI today? If the (pick one: networking industry, Internet, Free Market) was willing to freeze development to a single set of standards, it MAY be possible to establish REAL security standards. But with the constant MARKETING demand for chrome plated shiny new features and new markets (Voice over IP, Network Video, E-Comerce, etc.) this will never happen..... Personal Opinions Provided by Leonard Miyata aka leonard () geminisecure com Gemini Computers Inc. On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:
Even NIST and NSA have hopelessly dropped the ball on this one, preferring to go down the common criteria "if we produce an unreadable standard, no one will read it" rathole. :( mjr. -- Marcus J. Ranum, CEO, Network Flight Recorder, Inc. work - http://www.nfr.net home - http://www.clark.net/pub/mjr
Current thread:
- INtrusion Detection Gary Crumrine (Feb 17)
- Re: INtrusion Detection Frederick M Avolio (Feb 18)
- Re: INtrusion Detection Aleph One (Feb 18)
- Practical Firewall Metrics...Was: INtrusion Detection Christopher Nicholls (Feb 20)
- Re: Practical Firewall Metrics Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 20)
- Re: Practical Firewall Metrics Michael Brennen (Feb 20)
- Re: Practical Firewall Metrics Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 20)
- Re: Practical Firewall Metrics Christopher Nicholls (Feb 24)
- Practical Firewall Metrics...Was: INtrusion Detection Christopher Nicholls (Feb 20)
- Re: Practical Firewall Metrics Bennett Todd (Feb 20)
- Re: Practical Firewall Metrics Leonard Miyata (Feb 20)
- Re: Practical Firewall Metrics...Was: INtrusion Detection Bennett Todd (Feb 20)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: INtrusion Detection tqbf (Feb 18)
- Re: INtrusion Detection Adam Shostack (Feb 18)
- Re: INtrusion Detection Vern Paxson (Feb 18)
- Re: INtrusion Detection Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 18)
- Re: INtrusion Detection tqbf (Feb 18)
- RE: INtrusion Detection Gary Crumrine (Feb 19)
- RE: INtrusion Detection Alfred Huger (Feb 19)
- Re: INtrusion Detection tqbf (Feb 19)
- Re: INtrusion Detection George M. Jones (Feb 20)