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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SECURITY] Notifications of external emails


From: Frank Barton <bartonf () HUSSON EDU>
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:50:35 -0500

The problem that we're seeing is that one internal person gets phished, and
then starts spewing internal emails.
 I'm going to start another chain, but we are seeing some persistant
threads that might help identify compromised accounts.

Frank

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Cecka, Benjamin <BCecka () clark edu> wrote:

Since August we’ve been phished persistently and we also implemented the
“[EXTERNAL]” subject prefix on all of our inbound email. We also had some
resistance but it hasn’t gotten to the point where we felt the need to
reconsider. It took a few days of adjusting as some internal email was
being flagged incorrectly and there was objection to flagging student
messages and some hosted web applications. All in all there was also
positive feedback and the campus seems to have adjusted well to it.



Best regards,

Ben Cecka

Director, Infrastructure & Security


Information Technology

Clark College

(360) 992-2194



*From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Carter
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2017 7:18 AM
*To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
*Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [SECURITY] Notifications of external emails



This is more to combat the traditional “HR is validating your last
paycheck. Click the link and enter your account info” type of phishing.
Something procedural will get generally ignored by many departments when
sending out emails, so we’re looking for something more automatic.



*Thomas Carter*
Network & Operations Manager / IT

*Austin College*
900 North Grand Avenue
Sherman, TX 75090

Phone: 903-813-2564 <(903)%20813-2564>
www.austincollege.edu

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*From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [
mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>] *On
Behalf Of *Napier, Mark E
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2017 9:04 AM
*To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
*Subject:* Re: [SECURITY] Notifications of external emails



What about encouraging or requiring your users to use S/MIME to sign their
emails? That would also cover the situation in which a machine on the
internal network is engaged in pushing. (In most cases, anyway)



--

Mark E. Napier   MIS, CIPT

Deputy Director of Information Technology /

Chief Information Privacy and Security Officer

School of Informatics and Computing

Indiana University

















On Feb 8, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Thomas Carter <tcarter () AUSTINCOLLEGE EDU
<tcarter () austincollege edu>> wrote:



We are trying to combat phishing by making users more aware of emails that
come from outside campus vs internal emails. We’ve trialed using a mail
rule to modify the subject line and prepend a flag (like “EXTERNAL:” or
similar) but users complained it caused confusion (?) and they didn’t like
emails to be modified. I suspect a disclaimer added to the body of the
message would be either ignored or disliked for the same reasons.



Has anyone else done something to somehow flag external emails? What was
the feedback? How well does it work?



*Thomas Carter*
Network & Operations Manager / IT

*Austin College*
900 North Grand Avenue
Sherman, TX 75090

Phone: 903-813-2564 <(903)%20813-2564>
www.austincollege.edu

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-- 
Frank Barton
ACMT
IT Systems Administrator
Husson University


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