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Re: Russian Hacker story in today's news


From: Tim Doty <tdoty () MST EDU>
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:45:17 -0500

On 08/06/2014 12:22 PM, Brad Judy wrote:
Brian Krebs has posted on the topic today:

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/08/qa-on-the-reported-theft-of-1-2b-email-accounts/

Significantly, I think, Brian says that Mr. Holden didn't take most of
his advice...

It is true that Mr. Holden asked me to advise him when he was setting
up his business, but he hasn’t taken most of my advice. I have
received and will receive no compensation for said advice.

So while Krebs puts him in a positive light in the article, this seems more like the typical "security entrepreneur" than news of a notable breach. More (scare) business as usual.

Tim Doty



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[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] *On Behalf Of *Keller, Alex
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 06, 2014 11:15 AM *To:*
SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU *Subject:* Re: [SECURITY] Russian
Hacker story in today's news

Hi Folks,

I read the NY Times article yesterday and it immediately triggered
the BS meter. Article is exceedingly light on details.

Hold Security website is rudimentary and vague:

http://www.holdsecurity.com

WordPress admin interface is running over HTTP (no SSL available):

http://www.holdsecurity.com/wp-admin

They list Brian Krebs (of Krebs on Security) as a “special advisor”:

http://www.holdsecurity.com/about/advisory-board/

But Brian has made no note of this story on his blog:

http://krebsonsecurity.com

None of this passes even the most basic sniff test.

Best,

alex

*http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/06/technology/russian-gang-said-to-amass-more-than-a-billion-stolen-internet-credentials.html

 Alex Keller Information Technology Stanford School of Engineering
axkeller () stanford edu <mailto:axkeller () stanford edu> (650) 736-6421

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[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] *On Behalf Of *Chuck Braden
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 06, 2014 6:02 AM *To:*
SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
<mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> *Subject:* Re: [SECURITY]
Russian Hacker story in today's news

As I read Hold Security’s release this seems to be more of a
marketing
ploy to sell services combined with a credential collection scheme of
 their own.

A news resource I heard this morning said they would provide an
ability for users to query to see if their ID or what websites had
been compromised. No word when that would be available… Im not
hearing a lot from the vendor either – other than crickets and a cash
register bell ring. :-/

Jimmy C Braden

Information Security Officer

AgriLife Information Technology

979-862-7254

j-braden () tamu edu <mailto:j-braden () tamu edu>

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[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] *On Behalf Of *Slocum, Stacy
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 06, 2014 7:57 AM *To:*
SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
<mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> *Subject:* [SECURITY] Russian
Hacker story in today's news

Good morning,

A news story caught my attention this morning regarding the 1+
billion user accounts being collected by “Russian Hackers” over the
last 18 months.

The story is based on Hold Security’s news release dated yesterday
(8/5/2014).  As I read Hold Security’s release this seems to be more
of a marketing ploy to sell services combined with a credential
collection scheme of their own.  Additionally their Terms of Service
must be agreed to before registering for their “trial” service of
matching your credentials with those from contained in the breach
database and they offer to let you know if your password was also in
the breached data… after you provide it to them…

Does this seem odd to anyone else?

Thanks, Stacy

Stacy Slocum

Chief Information Officer

St. John Fisher College

3690 East Avenue

Rochester, NY 14618

(585) 385-8388



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