Re: Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??

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On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Heath Barnhart <heath.barnhart () washburn edu
> wrote:

>  By passive scan, I mean the wireless adapter is looking at beacons for
> networks to potentially connect to and nothing else, which every wireless
> device does. You can get the BSSID information from the OS which doesn't
> require a packet capture. The packet capture is just easier.
>
>
> On 4/17/2012 2:04 PM, Justin Azoff wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 01:21:45PM -0500, Heath Barnhart wrote:
>
>  I agree with this as well. There's a difference between walking around with
> your wifi adapter on and seeing what you see and actually capturing
> information, which I believe if anyone of us got caught doing would land us in
> a federal prison.
>
>  There isn't a difference though.. unless by "see" you mean display to
> the screen and "capture" you mean write to disk.
>
>
>  I would suggest, if asked for opinion by administration, that a stipulation be
> made that Google only be allowed to do passive scanning of the network only.
> That way they can still gather their WiFi location data if they want but not
> get user data.
>
>  "passive scanning" confuses two different concepts.  What google did
> originally that got them in trouble was completely passive data
> collection and didn't even involve any type of scanning.
>
> What google had intended on doing was to capture the unencrypted 802.11
> beacon frames which contain the SSID and BSSID.  They accidentally
> captured all 802.11 frames, including those from people using insecure
> wireless networks.  The only reason why google every captured user data
> was users were being stupid and broadcasting their data in the clear
> into public areas.
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Heath Barnhart, CCNA*
> Network Administrator
> Information Systems Services
> Washburn University
> Topeka, KS