Re: Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??

[Jeff Moore <mail () JEFFMOORE COM>]

Perhaps we are ultra paranoid with the bomb threats we have had recently
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Bomb-threat-shuts-down-Chemeketa-Community-College-139217864.html?tab=gallery&c=y&img=1
but we are trying to be very protective of our internal structural
information. We even went to the extreme of removing particular maps of our
campus due to the fact that they had shown the internal dimensions of the
buildings. As with anything this information can be used against us and our
concerns are that someone could use this information strategically in a
very negative way. We are looking at it with the view that the internal
layout of the buildings is not a necessity for students and when we do
provide them we will provide partial views that will cover the place of
interest.
Perhaps its a bit extreme but we have swayed toward the conservative side.

Thanks all hope this helps!

Jeff (Tinfoil Hat) Moore

CCC

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Tracy Mitrano <tbm3 () cornell edu> wrote:

> In light of this thread, I asked on the NACUA list if Google approached
> any attorneys.
>
> So far only one responded.   It was, for the record, a private institution.
>
> Tracy
>
> On a mobile device, please excuse typos.
>
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:50 AM, "Berman, Mark" <mberman () SIENA EDU> wrote:
>
> > Michael,
> >
> > I realize that for those of whose job includes security there is a
> responsibility to be a little paranoid, but this seems pretty harmless.
> Wearing another my hats of being responsible for the wireless network this
> seems very cool. They are offering to map the strength of our WiFi signal
> in the public areas of our campus. We don't intentionally provide wireless
> signal outdoors: here in the northeast there are only 2 weeks a year that
> the weather is conducive to sitting outside and working, otherwise it's too
> cold or it's raining or it's too sunny to see the screen! However a
> wireless heat map of the campus would be useful to students and useful to
> us to see if there are areas that we should pump up a bit. Most campuses
> have centrally controlled WiFi networks and I can't see any particular
> security risk to Google advertising the (after all) publicly viewable
> aspects of our networks.
> > Am I missing something?
> >
> > - Mark
> >
> > From: "SCHALIP, MICHAEL" <mschalip () CNM EDU<mailto:mschalip () CNM EDU>>
> > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 00:16:19 -0400
> > Subject: Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??
> >
> >
> > Hi Folks....
> >
> > Has anyone else been approached by Google Maps to allow them to "map
> your campus" in detail - presumably, for student navigation purposes??
>  Here's the "agreement" that they want us to sign off on.  I have some
> basic concerns, but - then again - my concerns may be completely unfounded.
>  So - I thought I'd offer this up to this group to see what your collective
> wisdom would respond with....(note the italicized entry)....
> > Let me know what you all think....
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > Agreement
> > We (the “Property Owner”, “Property Manager”, or “Property Operator”)
> hereby permit Google Inc. (through its employees, affiliates or agents) to
> enter the publicly accessible areas of the properties described above, at a
> time and in the manner directed by our designated contact person listed in
> the Signatory Information area below, to collect Location Information.
> > For the purposes of this agreement, “Location Information” means Wi-Fi
> access point MAC addresses (also known as BSSIDs); Wi-Fi access point
> properties (including signal strength); mobile handset-generated compass,
> gyroscope and accelerometer measurements; and other related information.
> > Google will abide by the property access rules specified by our
> designated contact person.
> > Google must have suitable insurance coverage or self-insure for all of
> Google’s activities on the propert(ies).  Google will be responsible for
> all costs of its data collection, and will be the exclusive owner of all
> right, title and interest in all data collected on the proper(ties).
> > This letter does not give Google any intellectual property rights to our
> trademarks or logos.  Neither party will use the other’s name, trademark or
> logo in any public statement without the other’s permission.
> > We affirm that we are either the Property Owner, the Property Manager,
> or the Property Operator, and that we have full power and authority to
> grant you the permission above.
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