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Re: Password Expatriation notification


From: Eric Case <eric () ERICCASE COM>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:08:34 -0700

What do you think of searching for your passphrase with
https://encrypted.google.com?
-Eric 


Eric Case, CISSP
eric (at) ericcase (dot) com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/ericcase
(520) 344-CISO (2476)



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Charles
Buchholtz
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:50 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Password Expatriation notification

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:04:30PM -0700, Alex Keller wrote:
re: I've watched people who have trouble typing try to enter passwords
and pass-phrases. When every character takes 5 seconds to type, a 9
character password is much easier than a 16 character pass-phrase.

however, it is often easier for people to type passphrases (even poor
typists) becuase the keystrokes are familiar. i am not a great typist
and i can type "Should we go back to the moon?" much faster than
"vf$1048Za".

I agree - it is difficult to predict who will prefer pass-phrases and
who will prefer passwords.

For people going to pass-phrases, are you preventing people from
picking common catch-phrases?  I'm not seeing brute force pass-phrase
guessing attacks, but I'd prefer to learn from history and build in my
defense now.

I liked the idea of Googling the pass-phrase (in quotes) and counting
the hits, but that would involve sending all of our passwords in clear
over the internet from our password management machine's IP.  It's too
bad - Google makes a really good password/passphrase vetter.

--- Chip

Charles H. Buchholtz                  Director of Systems Programming
chip () seas upenn edu                  School of Engineering and Applied Science
http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~chip                 University of Pennsylvania

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