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Re: phishing irony


From: Paul Crittenden <paul.crittenden () SIMPSON EDU>
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:09:54 -0600

I had the same thing happen to me. I now do not send any kind of
example. I just remind them that we will never ask for a username or
password via email. Some folks are learning as I get a lot of them
forwarded to me to let me know and a lot of inquiries at least asking
about them.

Paul Crittenden
Computer Systems Manager
Simpson College
Phone: 515-961-1680
Email: paul.crittenden () simpson edu
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Date:    Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:47:53 -0600
From:    "Tupker, Mike" <mtupker () MTMERCY EDU>
Subject: Re: phishing irony

I may be too cynical but just adding the warning won't help to "alert"
user=
s that it is a spam message. A good chunk of users will just ignore
certain=
 parts of an email and go straight to the questions that the email is
askin=
g.

I sent out a warning to our campus yesterday with an example of an email
to=
 watch out for and actually got responses with login information. It was
ve=
ry sad day for me.

Mike Tupker
Systems Administrator
Mount Mercy College
Office: (319) 363-1323 x1401
Mobile: (319) 538-1644
If you need assistance with an computer issue please contact the
helpdesk a=
t x4357 or http://help.mtmercy.edu.

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TSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] phishing irony

Ah, good call.  The message went through another EDU mail server
first,=20
which appears to have added the warning.

It fooled me :-)  I thought it was an attempt by the phisher to
diffuse=20
the users' perception of risk.

Adding the warning might not be a bad idea, but I think that it
should=20
state that the warning was added to the message after it was sent.

  Warning: the content of this message indicates that it might be
  an attempt to steal your private information.

  PHISHING: Legitimate organizations NEVER ask for your SSN, password,
  account number, or other personal data.  Do NOT ever provide such
  information to anyone via email.

Jesse

Dan Oachs wrote:
Is there any chance that someones outbound mailserver added that to
the=20
top of the message as a warning?  Would be an interesting idea but=20
probably would not stop many users from responding with their
password=20
anyway :)
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--Dan
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Jesse Thompson wrote:
I found a phish message today with the following at the top of the=20
message:


PHISHING: Legitimate organizations NEVER ask for your SSN, password,
account number, or other personal data.  Do NOT ever provide such
information to anyone via email.


It was then followed by the usual request to reply to the
@live.com=20
address with account credentials.

I can't figure out if the phishers are being stupid or genius.

Jesse


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   Jesse Thompson
   Division of Information Technology, University of Wisconsin-Madison
   Email/IM: jesse.thompson () doit wisc edu

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