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Re: Student paper "editorial" on robust passwords


From: "David L. Wasley" <david.wasley () UCOP EDU>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:25:10 -0700

The weird thing is that the student's editorial is quite readable!

What I don't often hear in this discussion is the clear set of
technical mitigations that we all should be working towards.  Of
course Frank's password should not be "Frank" but frankly we
technologists have some work to do as well.

It should be the goal of every IT environment that, at the very least:

       1. EVERY system requires reasonably strong passwords to avoid
          ease of guessing;

       2. NO system stores passwords in the clear, and NO system allows easy
          access to the password store (e.g. /etc/passwd)!!

       3. NO system requires sending passwords in clear text over ANY
          communications medium;

       4. EVERY system locks up an account if a password is entered
          incorrectly N times in succession.

If legacy systems can't conform to this, replace them ASAP.  Require
new systems to conform.  Eventually we'll all be safer and the very
long running password debate will be less interesting.

       David Wasley
       University of California


PS: It would be nice if there was an "Internet Good Housekeeping Seal
of Approval" that declared a site conformed to at least the above.  I
have "accounts" at NYTimes, Amazon, etc. and have no idea, nor any
way of knowing, what they do beyond https.


PPS: I was at a Microsoft site a while back which asked me for a
password.  My browser warned me that it was not an encrypted channel.
I sent a note to Microsoft and they replied "don't worry, it really
is encrypted."  What sort of mis-education is that?!  We try to train
users to care about such things and the world's techno-giant says
"don't worry; trust us" !?


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FWIW, in case you weren't bored enough to "read" the editorial, it
was actually supportive of the new rules at UT:



"Next week, the University will enter a new age of computer security.

"Most students have been informed that Information Technology
Services wants us to change our passwords.  Though the requirements
seem rather strict (and quite odd), new security measures such as
these will only protect us from hackers and other mean, nasty folks
who would like nothing better than to invade our personal lives.

"Some students will complain that the list of password requirements
may go altogether too far.  Some of the criticisms are fair: it may
be difficult to memorize an unintelligible set of numbers, letters,
and "special" characters.

"But the price we pay for Internet security is often rather steep and
we must take it in stride.  After all, we live in an era where some
of our most vital information is kept online; it must stay out of the
reach of cyber-terrorists!!"

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At 11:03 AM -0500 on 9/23/04, Dan Updegrove wrote:

Colleagues,

I thought you'd be amused by this "editorial," in today's Daily
Texan (the student paper) in response to our new policy to require
robust passwords.

Dan Updegrove

Viewpoint: [Please enter new password]



It will likely take less time to read this editorial than it will to
think of a new password for UT Direct. We'd like to help. In The
Daily Texan's continuing tradition of public service, each word in
this editorial meets the criteria to be a possible UT EID password.


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DT article --
http://www.dailytexanonline.com/news/2004/09/23/Opinion/Viewpoint.please.Enter.New.Password-728041.shtml

UT EID info -- https://utdirect.utexas.edu/nlogon/eid_suite/general/

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