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Re: 15 character minimum passwords


From: Melissa Guenther <mguenther () COX NET>
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 08:25:54 -0700

I have done work for 3 clients that initiated the 15 character password
requirement and all have gone back to an 8 character minimum.  The response
from the User community was far worse than anyone anticipated , and as
mentioned, the Helpdesk was overwhelmed with requests for password resets
and unlocking accounts.
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From: "Buz Dale" <buz.dale () USG EDU>
To: <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] 15 character minimum passwords


An 8 character minimum with a few qualifications (add a number or non
alpha character, etc.) seem sfairly reasonable.  With a 15 character
password, look out helpdesk.  There will probably be a lot more requests
for password resets and unlocking accounts.
IMHO,
Buz


Scott Bradner wrote:
what problem are you trying to solve with 15 character passwords

if you have a limit on incorrect password guesses then going from
8 to 15 characters makes no difference to fighting a guessing attack

the only threats I can see where going to 15 characters would make
a possible difference is watching over someone's shoulder to catch a
password and leaving the password file some place it can be grabbed
for a brute force attack

am I missing something?

the main effect I would predict is pissed off users - and that does not
seem like a security advantage

Scott

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Office of Information and Instructional Technology
University System of Georgia

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