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Re: VeriChip hack? (Sorry if this posts twice)


From: Nicholas Andre DePetrillo <nick () oshean org>
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:04:32 -0400

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I saw the HOPE presentation myself. I was under the impression that nothing on
the VeriChip was encrypted. Also they were able to read the unique ID off the
chip through the skin, then replay it to the VeriChip reader and have it
accepted as valid. So basically they could brush up against you in an elevator,
then go to the RFID reader at a secure location and replay it back as if you
scanned your implanted RFID chip.

Very cool and possibly a sign of things to come. Hopefully a wake up call to
RFID chip makers.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 05:35:24PM -0700, Shawn Fitzgerald wrote:

I don't know anything about this specific hack but a lot of the RFID  
attacks that have been surfacing are not very interesting and/or new.  
They generally have to do with how the RFID is used rather than some  
problem with the tech itself. For example if some system implements a  
key by just broadcasting a code, well thats just stupid and it can be  
sniffed. If the system is using some sort of challenge response,  
thats different.

That being said some of the older protocol attacks such as relay  
attacks (i.e. grand-master chess problem) are VERY relevant for the  
typical RFID system. Also it still is not clear if RFID is less  
vulnerably to your typical side channel attack (e.g. DPA/SPA type).

bottom line is that one can look at the design and determine if the  
RFID is vulnerably to the typical attacks being published.

Cheers, Shawn



On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Nick Selby wrote:

Anyone see the demo on the verichip hack at hope? Anyone have any  
opinion on the demo, like, was it successful :) ? Apologies again  
if this posts twice.
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