Re: Lynn / Cisco shellcode

[ET LoWNOISE <et () grex cyberspace org>]

I dont know but this issue isnt something like someone sending an email to 
everybody with propietary information. Even the bh-usa-05-speakers list 
specified what Lynn was going to do.

"Michael Lynn will provide an 
architectural overview of IOS and explore the feasibility of code 
execution against Cisco routers."

This things are not published and prepared one day before the conference, 
its hard to think that ISS didnt have a clue about what was going to 
happen. 



On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Steve Lord wrote:

> Mordy Ovits wrote:
>
> > On Thursday 28 July 2005 09:14 am, Thor Larholm wrote:
> >  
> >
> > > While Lynn worked at ISS he was doing a source code analysis for
> > > Cisco.
> > >    
> >
> > If that's true, than the biggest loser in this incident is ISS.  Lynn 
> > may suffer, but ISS is ruined.
> >
> > Mordy
> >  
> I'm not sure I agree with that last sentence Mordy. Depending upon how 
> they handle it they may never see Cisco again, but there's a world of 
> difference between X-Force losing major clients and ISS worldwide going 
> down the pan, at least that's how I see it (not that I'd shed a tear for 
> ISS if they did go down the pan, but that's beside the point).
>
> If ISS were doing a source code analysis, I do hope they have the right 
> to sue the bejesus out of the guy. I'd also suggest that Cisco point the 
> finger at ISS, rather than Lynn as he was under ISS's employ at the time 
> he wrote the talk, even though he wasn't when he gave it and ultimately 
> ISS is liable for his breach of NDA.
>
> However, if this turns into a DMCA job or a wacky piracy/terrorist-type 
> criminal issue, it just gives me another reason not to return to the 
> U.S. and remain in my undersea lair with my home-grown PVR, open-source 
> systems and TOR-ified tin-foil-covered Internet connection ;)
>
> Steve
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