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Re: Software patents ...
From: <halvar () gmx de>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 03:51:19 -0800
Hey all, Gadi,
They simply re-wrote those files and were over with it.I suppose the same could theoretically happen with the open source community, and then this list of patents wouldn't be worth much.
Which basically void's Ballmer's assertion that Governments would have to brace for patent lawsuits (if they were stupid enough to recognize US patent law) -- as soon as someone sues them over the nonlicensed use of the patent, the patent number would have to be disclosed. So I guess it all boils down to Ballmer being a FUD-monkey I guess... Does anyone have an idea for sensible software patent reform ? Realisticallyspeaking, algorithmic patents will not be abolished (or not introduced) as the
lobby behind it is too large and well-financed. So what would be useful measures to reform it ? A few ideas: 1) Shortening the expiry time of software patents to 3 to 5 years Reason: 20 years in software is about 30% of the total existence of the industry, and at the rate of innovation simply unrealistically long. 2) Forced licensing of patents at relatively low rates _or_ proportional to the proportion of the patent in a product. This would reduce the licensing fees for one-click shopping to a few cents hopefully. 3) 12 months of disclosure of patent applications with a challenge to the industry to show prior art or explain why the solution is obvious before a patent is granted 4) Putting the burden of paying the challenger's expenses in challenging apatent (if the patent is overturned) on the patent holder. This would basically mean that if I get myself a trivial patent and somebody decides to challenge it, and it is successfully overturned, I have to pay the challenger's costs. This would create incentive to do a better prior art search and discourage trivial patents.
5) In every field and every patent application, the applicant has to pay the patent office to hire an engineer from a different company in the same fieldto solve the particular problem solved by the patent application within n (2, 5, 10?) days of work. If the engineer successfully solves the issue in the same way as
in the patent, the patent is not non-obvious, and thus cannot be granted. Any other proposals or comments on the above ? Cheers,Halvar
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