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Re: fraud detection software for a bank


From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:19:48 -0400

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Kiran Karnad <kiran.karnad () mimos my> wrote:
But how do we test if the tokens are from before this 
(http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/08/business/08security.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0) or after?

That's an interesting question. The tokens were replaced because of
the potential for private key extraction due to PKCS padding
(http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2012/06/bad-couple-of-years-for-cryptographic.html).

I'm not sure its possible to check for an updated token, unless the
token API includes a version number and the version was incremented.
Perhaps you could try the attack and see if the token leaks timing
information due to padding oracles. And I'm not sure what you would do
remotely, either.

Jeff

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Subject: Re: fraud detection software for a bank

Falcon software anti-fraud system

Ricardo

Gretings

Sent from my iPad

On 23/10/2012, at 01:23, "Burhan Muhammad" <zero9zero () gmail com> wrote:

I believe that this is not a matter of proprietary or open source. As mentioned by gold flake it is about trust.

So what makes you think going open source? If reducing cost is your motives you might want to re-calculate again the 
TOTAL operation cost not just the software but including everything from software, developments to training.

Open source will be more flexible (usually) but it needs time before you can achieve certain desired performance. 
Development may cost more than going for proprietary software.

Hope this give you some insight.

Regards,
Burhan Muhammad
Master of Business Information Technology Royal Melbourne Institute of
Technology

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From: gold flake <ptinstructor () gmail com>
Sender: listbounce () securityfocus com
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:58:28
To: marco cohen<marcocohen2 () gmail com>
Cc: <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Subject: Re: fraud detection software for a bank

This is a fairly complicated issue and I am not sure an open source
solution is suitable, much less available.  Please talk to some market
leaders in this field or companies selling DLP solutions.  And for
god's sake be willing to spend some money on this.  As a bank, you are
not just protecting your customers' money but earning their trust.

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