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Re: Hard Drive Forensics Question


From: Larry Offley <lucullus () shaw ca>
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:13:34 -0700

You are correct that it can't prove that he didn't copy the files. Truth is if you want to check someones computer to see if they copied files, They know that you want to check it, and They have time/knowledge to erase evidence that They did copy it you will not be able to tell if They did or didn't copy the files.

The only thing they could prove would be that he did copy the files, if he did, never deleted the files, and the area of the drive the files were written to had also never been written over in the six months since then.

You could also ask of the forensics list. I'm sure the answer is going to be close to the same maybe more technical but the same idea.

Larry Offley



Matt Perry wrote:
I'm trying to answer a question for a customer regarding historical file copying on his personal Mac computer. I'm not sure if this is the right list to post this to; please redirect me if I should be asking this elsewhere.

Equipment Details:
Powerbook G4 with a 75 GB hard drive - purchased 3 or 4 years ago.
Samsung Pleomax USB power drive.

Background:
His former employer believes that documents on this external device might have been copied to his personal Powerbook. They are demanding that he allow them to have the drive imaged so that they can determine prove whether he did or did not copy these files to his home computer.

The weekend before he left his former employer he opened several documents on this external device using MS Office and maneuvered others using Finder. According to my customer all files opened were on USB drive and then saved back to it.

He left the company six months ago. When he left his former employer six months ago he returned the Pleomax drive to them.

Question:
My opinion is that looking at an image of his personal computer's hard drive will not prove conclusively whether or not he saved files from the company's Pleomax to his personal computer. Can someone either validate that or indicate why the image would provide that information?

He is prepared to allow his personal computer's hard drive to be imaged. I am concerned that doing so will breach his own privacy since he stores personal finance, correspondence, etc. on it.

Thanks so much.

Matt


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