RE: CISSP without experience

["James Michael Stewart" <michael () impactonline com>]

ISC2 offers an Associate of ISC2 which is a label offered to those who pass
the CISSP exam but who do not have the 4 years of experience (or 3 years
with a recent college degree). Then you are given 5 years within which to
obtain 4 years of relevant security experience, once you obtain sufficient
relevant experience then you are offered the CISSP cert. More details are
available on the www.isc2.org Web site.

If a company is asking for CISSP, it is doubtful they even know about the
Associate plan. Furthermore, if they really want a CISSP they may not want
to settle for a non-experienced person who has passed the exam. That's part
of the benefit of CISSP from an employer's perspective... If you hold the
cert it automatically ensures you have at least 3 or 4 years of relevant
experience. 

ISC2 built the cert in this manner on purpose. They did not want people to
obtain the cert that did not have experience. 

BTW, I'm a CISSP instructor (30+ classes). 

James Michael Stewart
michael () impactonline com
IMPACT Online - www.impactonline.com
Austin, TX 78749

-----Original Message-----
From: Robinson, Sonja [mailto:SRobinson () HIPUSA com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 7:08 PM
To: gautam.singh+spam () gmail com; Varun Pitale
Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: CISSP without experience

You should contact isc2.org and talk to them or checkthe web site.  I would
bet that you would be required to maintain the CPE's from the time you pass
until the time you become officially certified.


Sonja L. Robinson, CISSP, CISA, CISM
Forensic Specialist, Digital Investigations HIP Information Security Group
Tel: 212-806-4125
srobinson () hipusa com
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gautam R. Singh [mailto:gautam.singh () gmail com]
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:14 PM
To: Varun Pitale
Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: CISSP without experience

I too am intrested in the same & facing the problem that all the jobs
interviewed for required CISSP but i too lack experience. Can we just take
the CISSP and exam and pass it?

Anyone who has done it?

~gRs
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:50:46 -0500, Varun Pitale <varun.pitale () gmail com>
wrote:
> I have a 6 month experience on working professionally in Information 
> Security, but I have been learning and practicing it in my studies and 
> now I am looking for a job. Almost all of the jobs require a CISSP, 
> but you cannot get it without atleast 3 years experience. I did hear 
> that even without an experience you can pass the CISSP, but you will 
> not get the certification and then you can go to the employer and tell 
> him that you passed the CISSP. Anyone have any views or any experience 
> with it?
>
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