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RE: Hidden windows ports, files and services.


From: Alex Yan <drcyyan () yahoo com>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:36:32 -0800 (PST)


About six months.

--- Paul Marsh <pmarsh () nmefdn org> wrote:

Alex:

      Some red flags popped up as soon as I read your
last email.  "I
didn't configure it right till last weekend"  How
long had the system
been up and running configured incorrectly?  

Thanx, Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Yan [mailto:drcyyan () yahoo com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:20 AM
To: Paul Marsh; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Hidden windows ports, files and
services.

Paul,

I have Verizon DSL with a Linksys router (BEFS41 ?).
I didn't configure
it right till last weekend. The firewall and port
blocking were not
working properly before. I did try the XP ftp server
and SERV-U ftp.
But I already removed these components. Under IIS,
there are no services
running now. As you suggested, I can try remove IIS
component.

Thanks
Alex

--- Paul Marsh <pmarsh () nmefdn org> wrote:

Alex:

    Are you running IIS on the system in question? 
Are you running
FTP 
along with IIS?  If you don't need them add/remove
programs, 
add/remove Windows Components uncheck IIS and
click next, reboot and 
do a netstat -bano and see what's listening now. 
What kind of a 
internet connection do you have, broadband maybe?

Thanx, Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Yan [mailto:drcyyan () yahoo com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:17 AM
To: Paul Marsh; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Hidden windows ports, files and
services.

Hi Paul,

I did run TASKLIST before without "/SVC" The
processes are invisible 
to this command.

Last night, I checked Recycler, system32, system,
etc, but didn't get 
much.

I run TCPVIEW and got two set of interesting
entries with 
non-existent:

<non-existent>:348  local:ftp    LISTENING
<non-existent>:348  local:https  LISTENING
<non-existent>:348  local:6101   LISTENING

<non-existent>:1740  local:ftp    LISTENING
<non-existent>:1740  local:https  LISTENING
<non-existent>:1740  local:6101   LISTENING

These can be seen from "netstat" too. But I can't
kill these processes

using TCPVIEW. I tried to kill other regular
processes, it's OK.

Using "msconfig", I disabled sys.ini and win.ini,
stopped to load 
startup programs and disabled all services loading
except those from 
Microsoft for a clean boot. But these processes
are still there.

I also disabled some MS services like IIS,
Plug/Play.
Web Client, etc. No luck. After I disabled "DHCP",
processes are gone.
But after "DHCP" was disabled, almost all other
processes are gone 
too.

Next step, maybe I should do something on
registry.

Thanks
Alex

 
--- Paul Marsh <pmarsh () nmefdn org> wrote:

 Alex:

  This is very interesting and hopefully you can
do
a little more
investigation before you nuke and rebuild.  You
did an netstat -bano
and found two processes running listening on
port
21.
Try a TASKLIST /SVC
at a command prompt to see if you can identify
the
executable.  I'd do

a complete port scan on the system to see what
else is happening try
NMAP http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ against your
system on all 65K
ports TCP and UDP.  I'd also run Ethereal
http://www.ethereal.com/ on
the system to see if anything is trying to call
home or if anything is

trying to get in.  I'm hoping with the list of
listening ports and
capturing some traffic we can identify what's
cook'in.  Another good
source of info can be found at



http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/Hidden_Backdoors_Trojan_Horses_an
d_Rootkit_Tools_in_a_Windows_Environment.html

  Please keep us up to date as to what you find.

Thanx

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Yan [mailto:drcyyan () yahoo com]
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:39 PM
To: H Carvey; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Hidden windows ports, files and
services.

Hi all,

Thanks a lot for your help.
On weekend I tried some suggested options, but
still didn't get much
yet.

Scanned the system using the latest Norton AV
and
Stinger in the safe
mode. Nothing came out.

Run "netstat -baon". It gives process IDs and
program names for other
processes. For the processes related to port 21,
it says "No ownership

information can be found".

Tried fport, cport, process explorer, etc, but
no
luck.

"telnet 127.0.0.1 21" gives prompt "220 ." and
then times out in 15
seconds. No telnet service was found in Windows
service list.

Tonight I will follow the Mark's suggestions
step
by step and see if I

can get something. I will also try other
options.
If anything came
out, I will let you know.

I am a software developer, more on Unix, not so
familiar with Windows
registry and all kinds of services and processes
on XP. If I can not
find the problem and fix it, I have to reformat
the system. But even
after reformating, there is still a chance that
the system could not
be totally clean, because I have to restore some
critical data from

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