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Re: [7.8.2002 44916] Notice of Copyright Infringement
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:55:54 -0400
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:03:41 PDT, noyfb said:
Does the DMCA limit MPAA to going after the end point provider?
The MPAA isn't going after the end point provider. The MPAA is requesting that the end point provider deal with a customer that is apparently infringing on MPAA materials. It's going after the *user* who the end point provider is selling access to. This is an important point that people overlook - when Virginia Tech receives a note from the MPAA, they're not going after VT, they're requesting that VT provide assistance in dealing with a *user*. And in the vast majority of cases, we can resolve the situation without ever providing the MPAA *any* information about our user (which we wouldn't do without a subpoena anyhow - of course, if a valid subpoena shows up, we don't have much real choice in the matter).
What would happen if they sent a similar letter to a backbone provider such as Sprint complaining about Cox allowing such activities?
17 USC 512 specifically says that Cox is *NOT* required to monitor, restrict, or otherwise deal with such activities as long as they deal expediently with complaints when they arrive. Notice that Cox has the ability to deal with the offending user, since they are a Cox customer. And Sprint would be even less liable than Cox is, since Sprint *doesnt* have any effective way of turning off the user (for the technically minded, the best that Sprint can do is install a blackhole BGP route for the /32, which probably won't even Do The Right Thing if it's a DHCP'ed address - and most of Sprint's BGP peers won't accept a BGP announcement over a /19 or so). -- Valdis Kletnieks Computer Systems Senior Engineer Virginia Tech
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- RE: [7.8.2002 44916] Notice of Copyright Infringement noyfb (Jul 13)
- RE: [7.8.2002 44916] Notice of Copyright Infringement Dom De Vitto (Jul 11)
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