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Re: IPv6 woes - RFC
From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 12:48:50 -0700
On Sep 8, 2021, at 11:57 , Niels Bakker <niels=nanog () bakker net> wrote: * Owen DeLong via NANOG [Wed 08 Sep 2021, 20:35 CEST]:IPv4 continues to increase in cost. Surely, there is a point where organizations start to cry uncle.In most western countries there isn't much growth in the total number of connections. It's mostly churn between providers. IPv4 addresses aren't wasted once a customer leaves (unlike for mobile numbers there is no mandated number portability for IP addresses), they can be reused for the next customer, they don't deteriorate when kept in stock, and they can likely be sold for more, later, eventually. (As long as you buy, not rent, that is, and LIR fees don't significantly increase.) -- Niels.
The addresses aren’t the major cost of providing IPv4 services. CGN boxes, support calls, increasing size of routing table = buying new routers, etc. Increased cost of developers having to work around NAT and NAT becoming ever more complex with multiple layers, etc. All of these are the things driving the ever increasing cost of IPv4 services, not just the cost of the addresses. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Michael Thomas (Sep 15)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Carsten Bormann (Sep 16)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Mark Tinka (Sep 13)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 13)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Bill Woodcock (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC John Levine (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Fred Baker (Sep 11)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Niels Bakker (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Bjørn Mork (Sep 10)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Mark Andrews (Sep 10)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 19)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC sronan (Sep 06)
- if not v6, what? Michael Thomas (Sep 05)
- Re: if not v6, what? Grant Taylor via NANOG (Sep 05)
- Re: if not v6, what? Eric Kuhnke (Sep 07)
- Re: if not v6, what? Mark Tinka (Sep 07)
- Re: if not v6, what? Masataka Ohta (Sep 07)
- Re: if not v6, what? Niels Bakker (Sep 07)