RE: Network visibility

["Kain, Becki (.)" <bkain1 () ford com>]

Oh and I remember the day we first got mosaic and I thought “why would I need pictures on the internet?”

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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+bkain1=ford.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of Miles Fidelman
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 2:47 PM
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Since we seem to be getting pedantic...

There's "The (capital I) Internet" - which, most date to the flag day, and the "Public Internet" (the Internet after 
policies changed and allowed commercial & public use over the NSFnet backbone - in 1992f, as I recall).

Then there's the more general notion of "internetworking" - of which there was a considerable amount of experimental 
work going on, in parallel with TCP/IP.  And of (small i) "internets" - essentially any Catenet style 
network-of-networks.

Miles Fidelman

Mel Beckman wrote:
Michael,

“Looking into” isn’t “is” :)
 -mel


On Oct 20, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com><mailto:mike () mtcc com> wrote:



On 10/20/21 8:26 AM, Mel Beckman wrote:
Mark,

As long as we’re being pedantic, January 1, 1983 is considered the official birthday of the Internet, when TCP/IP first 
let different kinds of computers on different networks talk to each other.

It’s 2021, hence the Internet is less than, not more than, 40 years old.  Given your mathematical skills, I put no 
stock in your claim that we still can’t “buy an NMS that just works.” :)


Pedantically, IP is 40 years old as of last month. What you're talking about is the flag day. People including myself 
were looking into internet protocols well before the flag day.

Mike




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