Re: 10g residential CPE

[Ben Cannon <ben () 6by7 net>]

We are doing a similar project in Marin county - regardless of ability to pay.  If I can make it pencil, not only why 
not, but shouldn’t we all?

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> On Dec 28, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Aaron Wendel <aaron () wholesaleinternet net> wrote:
>
> We still build when needed. We're in the process of building to 700 new apartments so we can provide them with free 
> service.  We're actually pulling 576 strands into the basement of one building to backhaul each apartment to it's own 
> switch port in the new hut we just deployed to service that new development.  (we don't use a PON system.  Everyone 
> has a dedicated switch port.)  Also, keep in mind that this isn't all we do.  This is a very small part of a much 
> bigger pie.  So I agree with you.  If this was it then it would make no sense.  When you look at all the pieces 
> together it makes perfect sense.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> > On 12/28/2020 1:50 PM, Baldur Norddahl wrote:
> > I applaud your commitment to helping your local community. Just want to point out that this is a charity because it 
> > does not scale. Nobody could build out a FTTH network and make it free as a business case. But there are plenty of 
> > people that made a network for their neighbors and provided that for free. Maybe a person had a commercial fiber to 
> > his home and thought he could just as well share it. This might be on a bigger scale but it is the same.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Baldur
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 8:27 PM Aaron Wendel <aaron () wholesaleinternet net <mailto:aaron () wholesaleinternet 
> > net>> wrote:
> >
> >    Darin,
> >
> >    Our business support and residential support is the same
> >    department.  I
> >    have to pay those people to be in the office either way so it doesn't
> >    cost me any "more" to provide support for the residences. Yes,
> >    walking
> >    Grandma through getting her email can sometimes be a chore but that
> >    person is on the payroll whether he/she is helping Grandma or sitting
> >    there chatting with his/her co-worker.  If we dumped all the
> >    residential
> >    customers we would still have the same cost structure we do now.
> >
> >    Again, it's been free for the last 7 years at this point. I've never
> >    been one to really do what I "should" anyway.
> >
> >    Aaron
> >
> >
> >    On 12/28/2020 11:48 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
> >    > Aaron,
> >    >
> >    > The "Free" service doesn't cover your cost of support which is much
> >    > higher for residential than any business customer. Our residential
> >    > customers call at least 15x more often compared to business
> >    customers
> >    > compared on a 1:1 ratio.
> >    >
> >    > I honestly can't fathom providing free residential service
> >    because we
> >    > make enough money on the business side of things. You should be
> >    > charging something, at least $20-30 per month.
> >    >
> >    > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:15 AM Aaron Wendel
> >    > <aaron () wholesaleinternet net
> >    <mailto:aaron () wholesaleinternet net>
> >    <mailto:aaron () wholesaleinternet net
> >    <mailto:aaron () wholesaleinternet net>>> wrote:
> >    >
> >    >     The $300 covers the equipment and the time to send someone
> >    out to a
> >    >     house to install it.  If $300 is too much you can pay in 12
> >    >     installments
> >    >     of $25.
> >    >
> >    >     The TIK alone costs us about $250.
> >    >
> >    >     Aaron
> >    >
> >    >
> >    >     On 12/27/2020 5:04 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
> >    >     >
> >    >     >
> >    >     > On 12/26/20 20:48, Darin Steffl wrote:
> >    >     >
> >    >     >> Aaron,
> >    >     >>
> >    >     >> One simple question. Why on earth would you offer free
> >    internet
> >    >     >> service? How and why? Your site show 1 Gig symmetrical
> >    for free
> >    >     when
> >    >     >> you should be a minimum of $65 per month to be competitive.
> >    >     >
> >    >     > They also ask for no monthly fee after a single payment of
> >    US$300.
> >    >     >
> >    >     > Considering the 2Gbps package costs US$49.95, you'd guess
> >    they'd
> >    >     value
> >    >     > the 1Gbps service at, say US$27/month, give or take.
> >    >     >
> >    >     > So that US$300 provides a bit of coverage, perhaps 1 year,
> >    in which
> >    >     > time they'd have likely upgraded the customer.
> >    >     >
> >    >     > Mark.
> >    >
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