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Re: Question about normal ops - BGP Flaps nightly
From: Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2019 05:32:24 +0100
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:21 AM Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:01 AM Saku Ytti <saku () ytti fi> wrote:On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 at 19:44, Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>wrote:A BGP reset can cause routing trouble for as much as 15 minutes. Sinceyou have two sessions that mitigates the problem somewhat. But nevertheless this will not be acceptable.As there are best path algorithms which consider route age, BGP reset impact may be indefinite.fortunately we have a second actual provider... so this all isn't super impacting to us, just weird and unexpected on my part.
No that is not helping. When the BGP session flaps your routes via that provider are withdrawn. Everyone out there that were using those routes will need to switch. But consider the following: ISP A has routes from both of your providers ISP B has A as uplink BGP works so that ISP A is only announcing the route that he is actually using to ISP B. ISP B therefore does not have both of your routes. When the active route is withdrawn ISP B will momentary be without any route to your network. It can take some time after the withdraw before ISP A announces that he now is using the alternative route. This gets worse with longer chains. Also some ISPs are using route flap limiting techniques that can prolong this process. As I said, my experience is that you can expect as much as 15 minutes of flaky internet after a BGP reset. This is with multiple transit providers. I can not say too much about why you have BGP resets, but I can say that you really want it fixed. It will affect your connectivity. Regards, Baldur
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