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Re: BGP Experiment
From: Randy via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 23:14:39 +0000 (UTC)
OP is yet to clarify how a single /24 advertisement caused a "massive-prefix spike/flap"; in OP's words. The Experiment should continue. -Randy On Friday, January 25, 2019, 2:32:47 PM PST, Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote: If I understand this thread correctly, the test cause no actual change in the routing table size or route announcement. That was all a result of the incorrect behavior of the software. Instead of throwing rocks, how about some data instead. We can collaborate and better understand the whole thing so make it better and move on to the next thing. Yelling about "North America" when 4 of the 7 listed researchers on the test are NOT IN NORTH AMERICA doesn't really help anything. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 10:25 AM Ben Cooper <ben () packet gg> wrote:
Can you stop this? You caused again a massive prefix spike/flap, and as the internet is not centered around NA (shock horror!) a number of operators in Asia and Australia go effected by your “expirment” and had no idea what was happening or why. Get a sandbox like every other researcher, as of now we have black holed and filtered your whole ASN, and have reccomended others do the same. On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 1:19 am, Italo Cunha <cunha () dcc ufmg br> wrote:NANOG, This is a reminder that this experiment will resume tomorrow (Wednesday, Jan. 23rd). We will announce 184.164.224.0/24 carrying a BGP attribute of type 0xff (reserved for development) between 14:00 and 14:15 GMT. On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:05 AM Italo Cunha <cunha () dcc ufmg br> wrote:NANOG, We would like to inform you of an experiment to evaluate alternatives for speeding up adoption of BGP route origin validation (research paper with details [A]). Our plan is to announce prefix 184.164.224.0/24 with a valid standards-compliant unassigned BGP attribute from routers operated by the PEERING testbed [B, C]. The attribute will have flags 0xe0 (optional transitive [rfc4271, S4.3]), type 0xff (reserved for development), and size 0x20 (256bits). Our collaborators recently ran an equivalent experiment with no complaints or known issues [A], and so we do not anticipate any arising. Back in 2010, an experiment using unassigned attributes by RIPE and Duke University caused disruption in Internet routing due to a bug in Cisco routers [D, CVE-2010-3035]. Since then, this and other similar bugs have been patched [e.g., CVE-2013-6051], and new BGP attributes have been assigned (BGPsec-path) and adopted (large communities). We have successfully tested propagation of the announcements on Cisco IOS-based routers running versions 12.2(33)SRA and 15.3(1)S, Quagga 0.99.23.1 and 1.1.1, as well as BIRD 1.4.5 and 1.6.3. We plan to announce 184.164.224.0/24 from 8 PEERING locations for a predefined period of 15 minutes starting 14:30 GMT, from Monday to Thursday, between the 7th and 22nd of January, 2019 (full schedule and locations [E]). We will stop the experiment immediately in case any issues arise. Although we do not expect the experiment to cause disruption, we welcome feedback on its safety and especially on how to make it safer. We can be reached at disco-experiment () googlegroups com. Amir Herzberg, University of Connecticut Ethan Katz-Bassett, Columbia University Haya Shulman, Fraunhofer SIT Ítalo Cunha, Universidade Federal de Minas Gerais Michael Schapira, Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tomas Hlavacek, Fraunhofer SIT Yossi Gilad, MIT [A] https://conferences.sigcomm.org/hotnets/2018/program.html [B] http://peering.usc.edu [C] https://goo.gl/AFR1Cn [D] https://labs.ripe.net/Members/erik/ripe-ncc-and-duke-university-bgp-experiment [E] https://goo.gl/nJhmx1-- Ben Cooper Chief Executive Officer PacketGG - Multicast M(Telstra): 0410 411 301 M(Optus): 0434 336 743 E: ben () packet gg & ben () multicast net au W: https://packet.gg W: https://multicast.net.au
Current thread:
- Re: BGP Experiment, (continued)
- Re: BGP Experiment Saku Ytti (Jan 31)
- Re: BGP Experiment Randy Bush (Jan 31)
- Re: BGP Experiment Christoffer Hansen (Jan 23)
- Re: BGP Experiment Paul S. (Jan 23)
- Re: BGP Experiment Töma Gavrichenkov (Jan 23)
- Global statistics during the experiment (was Re: BGP Experiment) Mike Tancsa (Jan 24)
- Re: Global statistics during the experiment (was Re: BGP Experiment) Töma Gavrichenkov (Jan 24)
- Re: BGP Experiment Mike Hale (Jan 24)
- Re: BGP Experiment valdis . kletnieks (Jan 24)
- Re: BGP Experiment Tom Beecher (Jan 25)
- Re: BGP Experiment Randy via NANOG (Jan 25)
- Re: BGP Experiment Mark Tees (Jan 25)
- Re: BGP Experiment Mark Tees (Jan 25)
- Re: BGP Experiment Randy Bush (Jan 26)
- Re: BGP Experiment Owen DeLong (Jan 26)
- Re: BGP Experiment valdis . kletnieks (Jan 26)
- Re: BGP Experiment Owen DeLong (Jan 26)
- Re: BGP Experiment Randy Bush (Jan 26)
- Re: BGP Experiment Eric Kuhnke (Jan 26)
- Re: BGP Experiment Nick Hilliard (Jan 26)
- Re: BGP Experiment Randy Bush (Jan 26)