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Re: Proving Gig Speed
From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 10:00:48 -0500 (CDT)
The game companies (and render farms) also need to work on as extensive peering as the top CDNs have been doing. They're getting better, but not quite there yet. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Scott Helms" <kscott.helms () gmail com> To: "mark tinka" <mark.tinka () seacom mu> Cc: "NANOG list" <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:58:09 AM Subject: Re: Proving Gig Speed
Peering isn't the problem. Proximity to content is. Netflix, Google, Akamai and a few others have presence in Africa already. So those aren't the problem (although for those currently in Africa, not all of the services they offer globally are available here - just a few). A lot of user traffic is not video streaming, so that's where a lot of work is required. In particular, cloud and gaming operators are the ones causing real pain. All the peering in the world doesn't help if the latency is well over 100ms+. That's what we need to fix. Mark.
Mark, I agree completely, I'm working on a paper right now for a conference (waiting on Wireshark to finish with my complex filter at the moment) that shows what's happening with gaming traffic. What's really interesting is how gaming is changing and within the next few years I do expect a lot of games to move into the remote rendering world. I've tested several and the numbers are pretty substantial. You need to have <=30 ms of latency to sustain 1080p gaming and obviously jitter and packet loss are also problematic. The traffic is also pretty impressive with spikes of over 50 mbps down and sustained averages over 21 mbps. Upstream traffic isn't any more of an issue than "normal" online gaming. Nvidia, Google, and a host of start ups are all in the mix with a lot of people predicting Sony and Microsoft will be (or are already) working on pure cloud consoles. Scott Helms
Current thread:
- Re: Proving Gig Speed, (continued)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed K. Scott Helms (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mark Tinka (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed K. Scott Helms (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mike Hammett (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Radu-Adrian Feurdean (Jul 22)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Niels Bakker (Jul 22)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mark Tinka (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed K. Scott Helms (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mark Tinka (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed K. Scott Helms (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mike Hammett (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mark Tinka (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Niels Bakker (Jul 19)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mark Tinka (Jul 19)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mark Tinka (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Julien Goodwin (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mark Tinka (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Tei (Jul 19)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mark Tinka (Jul 19)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Eric Kuhnke (Jul 19)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mark Tinka (Jul 20)