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Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses
From: Florian Weimer <fw () deneb enyo de>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 17:13:32 +0200
* Tom Beecher:
An email to a user notifying them they're likely compromised costs basically nothing.
If this increases the probability that the customer contacts customer support, in some markets, there is a risk that the account will never turn profitable during the current contract period. (Granted, my information may be woefully out of date, but my impression is that price-based competition is still pretty much cut-throat over here.)
If you find me an ISP that can't afford to notify users, I'll show you one that shouldn't be in business anyways.
I'm not blaming the ISP. (I may have done so in the past.) If we end up in such a situation, it's hardly the fault of one single ISP.
There's this presumption of guilt here, that Sony is right, and Simon's subscribers are doing something malicious, yet they won't provide any evidence of that. Even if they didn't know what it was, come back with 'We're seeing weird bursts of [traffic characteristics] aimed at PSN during these times. We're not quite sure what it is, but it's causing [problem X].' It would still be a question of maliciousness or not, but it would be something to work with. Providing nothing just perpetuates this finger pointing game, and nothing gets solved.
Yes, indeed. Resolving most networking problems needs cooperation, because at the most basic level, the Internet is still about connecting otherwise unrelated networks.
Current thread:
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses, (continued)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Mike Hammett (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Florian Weimer (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Simon Lockhart (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Florian Weimer (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Simon Lockhart (Sep 18)
- RE: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Tony Wicks (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Jason Baugher (Sep 18)
- RE: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Tony Wicks (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Tom Beecher (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Florian Weimer (Sep 18)
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- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Larry Sheldon (Sep 18)
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- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Larry Sheldon (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Justin Wilson (Sep 20)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Mark Andrews (Sep 20)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 20)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Tom Beecher (Sep 21)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Roland Dobbins (Sep 21)