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Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses
From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 11:07:05 -0400
An email to a user notifying them they're likely compromised costs basically nothing. An email to their entire subscriber base also costs nothing. If you find me an ISP that can't afford to notify users, I'll show you one that shouldn't be in business anyways. There's this presumption of guilt here, that Sony is right, and Simon's subscribers are doing something malicious, yet they won't provide any evidence of that. Even if they didn't know what it was, come back with 'We're seeing weird bursts of [traffic characteristics] aimed at PSN during these times. We're not quite sure what it is, but it's causing [problem X].' It would still be a question of maliciousness or not, but it would be something to work with. Providing nothing just perpetuates this finger pointing game, and nothing gets solved. On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Florian Weimer <fw () deneb enyo de> wrote:
* Tom Beecher:Simon's getting screwed because he's not being given any information totryand solve the problem, and because his customers are likely blaming him because he's their ISP.We don't know that for sure. Another potential issue is that the ISP just cannot afford to notify its compromised customers, even if they were able to detect them.
Current thread:
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses, (continued)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Tom Beecher (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Mike Hammett (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Florian Weimer (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Simon Lockhart (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Florian Weimer (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Simon Lockhart (Sep 18)
- RE: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Tony Wicks (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Jason Baugher (Sep 18)
- RE: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Tony Wicks (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Tom Beecher (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Tom Beecher (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Florian Weimer (Sep 18)
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- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Larry Sheldon (Sep 18)
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- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Larry Sheldon (Sep 18)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Justin Wilson (Sep 20)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Mark Andrews (Sep 20)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 20)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Tom Beecher (Sep 21)
- Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses Roland Dobbins (Sep 21)