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Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels


From: Javier J <javier () advancedmachines us>
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 12:04:22 -0400

Getting back on topic here, the biggest group to blame here is the content
producers and the MPAA who insist on only giving licenses out for content
on a regional/country basis, and I would bet the balance of my bank account
that they have forced netflix to block VPNs Tunnels and anything else by
force, in order to keep the licensed content they have.


Remember that the industry has been at war with Netflix from the beginning,
the cable companies (some are also content producers) hate netflix.


I am sure that netflix doesn't give a crap where you are located as long as
you pay the subscription, it is their licensing agreements for content that
has forced their hand and created this mess.


Shame on the content producers, and shame on the MPAA.

- J

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Elvis Daniel Velea <elvis () velea eu> wrote:

So, how do you identify where an IP address is used?

/elvis

Excuse the briefness of this mail, it was sent from a mobile device.

On Jun 8, 2016, at 18:41, Spencer Ryan <sryan () arbor net> wrote:

It identifys where you told it you are. It doesn't tell Netflix that your
v4 endpoint is in New Zeland and you are watching a bunch of content you
are not supposed to have access to.

Is this really that hard to understand?


*Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sryan () arbor net
*Arbor Networks*
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On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:33 AM, John Peach <john-nanog () peachfamily net>
wrote:

Mine, whilst not identifying me personally, has detail down to the
correct town and zipcode.


On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:30:31 -0500
Chris Adams <cma () cmadams net> wrote:

Once upon a time, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> said:
Contrary to your repeated assertions, HE tunnels are NOT anonymous.

HE operates a perfectly fine RWHOIS server that provides sufficient
information about each tunnel that it cannot be considered
anonymous.

Unless that information is verified, it is effectively anonymous.  I
had an HE tunnel years ago, and the only verified information was my
email address.




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