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Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers
From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 18:27:34 +0000
On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 10:17:29AM -0800, Bill Woodcock wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 5, 2011, at 11:22 AM, bmanning () vacation karoshi com wrote:ARIN's community certinly is dominated by a particular type of network operator.It's dominated by the type of network operator who shows up and participates. Generally, I hear what you're saying and don't disagree, but this is one of those truisms that applies across the whole spectrum of Internet governance: constrained-resource allocation, protocol definition, route and capacity forecasting, carrier interconnect, what-have-you. It's the people who sit back and say that someone else is doing it who don't get represented and don't get their way. So while I absolutely recognize the phenomenon you're describing and wish it were otherwise, the solution is action, not complaint. -Bill
there is no complaint here bill. there is simply the observation that if I justified an allocation 20 years ago, under the then current policy, that it is, at best, presumptious to presume the power of expropriation without taking into account the doctrine of eminent domain. If the RIR's and there active members want to take my right to use space away - I expect to be compensated at fair market value. I'm pretty sure that those arguments are going to be tested in the courts ... --bill
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- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers, (continued)
- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers Scott Helms (Feb 03)
- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers Matthew Kaufman (Feb 03)
- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers (was: Re: And so it ends... ) Jon Lewis (Feb 03)
- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers (was: Re: And so it ends... ) bmanning (Feb 05)
- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers (was: Re: And so it ends... ) Joel Jaeggli (Feb 05)
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- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers John Curran (Feb 05)
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- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers John Curran (Feb 05)
- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers Patrick W. Gilmore (Feb 05)
- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers Bill Woodcock (Feb 05)
- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers bmanning (Feb 05)
- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers Bill Woodcock (Feb 05)
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- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers John Curran (Feb 05)
- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers David Conrad (Feb 05)
- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers John Curran (Feb 05)
- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers David Conrad (Feb 06)
- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers John Curran (Feb 06)
- Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers David Conrad (Feb 06)