Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers

[bmanning () vacation karoshi com]

On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 12:40:44PM +0000, John Curran wrote:
> On Feb 5, 2011, at 5:57 AM, bmanning () vacation karoshi com wrote:
> > > For the ARIN region, it would be nice to know how you'd like ARIN perform
> > > in the presence of such activity ("leasing" IP addresses by ISP not providing
> > > connectivity).  It's possible that such is perfectly reasonable and to simply
> > > be ignored, it's also possible that such should be considered a fraudulent 
> > > transfer and the resources reclaimed.  At the end of the day, the policy is
> > > set by this community, and clarity over ambiguity is very helpful.
> > > ...
> >
> >    the practice predates ARIN by many years...  FWIW...
>
> Good to know; it makes its omission from RFC2050 even more significant and 
> highlights the need for clear policy in this area.  Ultimately, the question
> is simply how the operator community wishes to have this treated, and there
> should be alignment between that consensus and the number resource policy. 
>
> /John

        as you pointed out back in oh, IETF-29, actual network operators 
        don't participate much in the standards setting process so its
        no wonder RFC 2050 has (several) "blind-spots" when it comes to 
        operational reality.

        and pragmatically, I am not sure that one could come to a single
        consistent suite of polciy for management of number resource. there's
        just too many ways (some conflicting) to use them.  but this might be
        a sigma-six outlying POV.  ARIN's community certinly is dominated by
        a particular type of network operator.

--bill