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Re: the alleged evils of NAT, was Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?
From: "John R. Levine" <johnl () iecc com>
Date: 20 Apr 2010 11:29:59 -0400
Did you use Yahoo IM, AIM, or Skype?
Yes, yes, and yes. Works fine.
Did you use any of those for Video Chat and/or to transfer files?
Skype video chat, all the time, works fine. Don't remember about file transfer.
Did you do any peer to peer filesharing?
Yeah, I got the latest Freebsd via bittorrent, and left it up overnight and observed from the stats that it served chunks of it back to other people.
Did you play any MMOs?
No, I noted the game players.
Did you run any services?
Of course not, it's consumer DSL. I run services on my server which is somewhere else and tunnel in via ssh which, of course, works fine through NAT.
When you add in the other things that break which I have outlined above, you start to approach 75%. I would argue that 75% is a significant and meaningful fraction of an ISPs customer base.
The hypthetical network that your consumers would use appears to be very different from the actual one available to consumers around here.
R's, John
Current thread:
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?, (continued)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Mark Newton (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Mark Andrews (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? bmanning (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Joe Greco (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Owen DeLong (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Mark Andrews (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? John Levine (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Simon Perreault (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Jack Bates (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Owen DeLong (Apr 20)
- Re: the alleged evils of NAT, was Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? John R. Levine (Apr 20)
- Re: the alleged evils of NAT, was Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Mikael Abrahamsson (Apr 20)
- Re: the alleged evils of NAT, was Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Eliot Lear (Apr 20)
- Re: the alleged evils of NAT, was Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Mark Smith (Apr 20)
- Re: the alleged evils of NAT, was Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Jens Link (Apr 21)
- Re: the alleged evils of NAT, Joe Greco (Apr 21)
- Re: the alleged evils of NAT, was Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Andy Davidson (Apr 27)
- Re: the alleged evils of NAT, was Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Matthew Kaufman (Apr 27)
- Re: the alleged evils of NAT, was Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Nick Hilliard (Apr 27)
- Re: the alleged evils of NAT, was Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 27)
- Re: the alleged evils of NAT, was Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Jon Lewis (Apr 27)