Re: Redundant AS's

[Hank Nussbacher <hank () efes iucc ac il>]

At 12:40 PM 18-03-09 -0700, goemon () anime net wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
> > At 08:18 AM 18-03-09 +0100, Henk Uijterwaal wrote:
> > > > It's a bit dated now, but the RIPE report, ASN MIA, sounds like what 
> > > > you're looking for...
> > > > www.apnic.net/meetings/21/docs/sigs/routing/routing-pres-uijterwaal-asn-mia.ppt 
> > > When I look at this more recently, the conclusion still seems to be
> > > valid: we'll run out of 16 bit ASN's somewhere in 2011 to 2013.  There
> > > are a lot of unused ASN's out there.  Recovering them will postpone the
> > > problem by a few years but it won't solve it.  The basic problem with
> > > recovery is how to decide if an ASN is really no longer used/needed.
> > > There is (still) no mechanism to do this.
> > > Henk
> > Why not go after low lying fruit first?  If an ASN was assigned years ago 
> > and hasn't appeared in the RIB for the past year that ASN should be 
> > reclaimed. Send warning emails to the registered contacts as well as to 
> > the assigning LIR and after 3 months - just reclaim it.
>
> How about just nailing everyone who has invalid contact info? That would 
> certainly be incentive to get it updated. Nothing else seems to work.
>
> -Dan

How about making it financially worth it?  RIRs charge for resources - like 
IPs and ASNs:
http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/charging2009.html
1 ASN = /21 in money terms.  It takes me about 3-5 hours of work to track 
down and get an old unused ASN to be deallocated.  How about updating the 
2010 charging model so that LIRs that return ASNs are compensated?

-Hank