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Re: Fiber cut in SF area
From: Roger Marquis <marquis () roble com>
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:08:58 -0700 (PDT)
Jorge Amodio wrote:
s/DARPA/ARPA/; s/BBM/BBN/; s/Internet/ARPAnet/.
/DARPA/ARPA/ may be splitting hairs. According to http://www.livinginternet.com/i/ii_roberts.htm "DARPA head Charlie Hertzfeld promised IPTO Director Bob Taylor a million dollars to build a distributed communications network". And apologies WRT /BBM/BBN/. Guess it was really has been a while now (given the 4 and 5 figure checks to BBN I signed back in the day). Sean Donelan wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009, Roger Marquis wrote:The real problem is route redundancy. This is what the original contract from DARPA to BBM, to create the Internet, was about! "The net" was created to enable communications bttn point A and point B in this exact scenario.Uh, not exactly. There was diversity in this case, but there was also N+1 breaks. Outside of a few counties in the Bay Area, the rest of the country's telecommunication system was unaffected. So in that sense the system worked as designed. Read the original DARPA papers, they were not about making sure grandma could still make a phone call.
Apparently even some network operators don't yet grasp the significance of this event.
Why didn't the "man in the street" pharmacy have its own backup plans?
I assume they, as most of us, believed the government was taking care of the country's critical infrastructure. Interesting how well this illustrates the growing importance of the Internet vis-a-vis other communications channels. Roger Marquis
Current thread:
- RE: Fiber cut in SF area, (continued)
- RE: Fiber cut in SF area Roger Marquis (Apr 11)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Jorge Amodio (Apr 11)
- RE: Fiber cut in SF area Sean Donelan (Apr 11)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Mike Lyon (Apr 11)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Ravi Pina (Apr 11)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Roy (Apr 11)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Mike Lyon (Apr 11)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Jorge Amodio (Apr 11)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Roy (Apr 11)
- RE: Fiber cut in SF area Roger Marquis (Apr 11)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Joel Jaeggli (Apr 11)
- RE: Fiber cut in SF area Peter Beckman (Apr 13)
- RE: Fiber cut in SF area Crist Clark (Apr 13)
- RE: Fiber cut in SF area Peter Beckman (Apr 13)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Nathan Ward (Apr 13)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Jack Bates (Apr 13)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area telmnstr (Apr 13)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Jack Bates (Apr 13)