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Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)
From: David Barak <thegameiam () yahoo com>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 04:56:44 -0800 (PST)
--- Michael.Dillon () btradianz com wrote:
Resounding YES - I specifically DON'T wantend-hoststo be able to make these decisions, but need to be able to multihome.When I see comments like this I wonder whether people understand what shim6 is all about. First of all, these aren't YOUR hosts. They belong to somebody else. If you are an access provider then these hosts belong to a customer that is paying you to carry packets. This customer also pays another ISP for the same service and the hosts are making decisions about whether to use your service or your competitors. If you are a hosting provider, then these hosts, owned by a third party, are making decisions about whether to send you packets through one or another AS. Is there something inherently wrong with independent organizations deciding where to send their packets?
That's not the case I'm discussing - I'm talking about the multihomed enterprise. From an access provider point of view, Shim6 is no worse/better than the various TE-fu devices which end customers use - it makes predicting load a bit more difficult, but it's just bits to be passed. From an enterprise POV I want two or three decision points which I need to monitor and manage, not 10,000.
P.S. I don't believe that shim6 will ever succeed.
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