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Re: Time for IPv8? (was Re: shim6 @ NANOG)
From: "william(at)elan.net" <william () elan net>
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 03:51:58 -0800 (PST)
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Roland Dobbins wrote:
Given the manifold difficulties we're facing today as a result of these two design decisions (#2 is a 'hidden' reason behind untold amounts of capex and opex being spent in frustratingly nonproductive ways), perhaps it is time to consider declaring the 'Limited-Deployment IPv6 Proof-of-Concept Experiment' to be a success, take the lessons learned (there are a lot more unresolved and potentially problematic issues than those mentioned in this thread) into account and get started on IPv8.
If you want to redesign IPv[4|6] into IPvNG that deals with all known issues - more power to you. But do you really think we can have fully
working prototype and set of RFCs from WG by the time we ran out of IPv4 addresses? One of the lessons learned from IPv6 is actually that it takes long time to agree on changes to TCP/IP stack and even longer before those changes begin to appear on end-devices. Another lesson is that any new type of "address" also has associated allocation policy issues and to get consensus on that in entire world is also very difficult and takes just as much time. -- William Leibzon Elan Networks william () elan net
Current thread:
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG, (continued)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG Tony Li (Mar 05)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG Steven M. Bellovin (Mar 05)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG Iljitsch van Beijnum (Mar 06)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG Stephen Sprunk (Mar 06)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG David Meyer (Mar 06)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG Owen DeLong (Mar 05)
- Time for IPv8? (was Re: shim6 @ NANOG) Roland Dobbins (Mar 05)
- Time for IPv10? (was Re: Time for IPv8?) Roland Dobbins (Mar 05)
- Re: Time for IPv10? (was Re: Time for IPv8?) bmanning (Mar 05)
- Re: Time for IPv8? (was Re: shim6 @ NANOG) JORDI PALET MARTINEZ (Mar 05)
- Re: Time for IPv8? (was Re: shim6 @ NANOG) william(at)elan.net (Mar 06)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG Per Heldal (Mar 06)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG Michael . Dillon (Mar 06)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Randy Bush (Mar 02)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Eliot Lear (Mar 06)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Stephen Sprunk (Mar 06)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Eliot Lear (Mar 06)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) David Barak (Mar 02)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Edward B. DREGER (Mar 02)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Daniel Golding (Mar 02)