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Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill])
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:43:55 +0100 (CET)
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 Michael.Dillon () btradianz com wrote:
This is more or less what BT has done in the UK by splitting off all the field engineering into a separate company called Openreach.
Telia in Sweden did that (Skanova), now that they're privatised (partly) they're merging that unit back again, and it never was a really separate unit.
Having a separate cable company with airtight divide to the service company is a must. Economy of scale says only one cable is needed to the consumer, but from there it seems there is enough different ways of doing things that it warrants a plenthora of companies to supply service, I would say at least three.
Price of bw in Sweden which generally has at least 3 different ISPs colocating with telia in the larger phone stations, is at $25 per month plus tax for ADSL 8/1, personally I think that if we had a separate cable company this would actually be slightly lower, if not, we would at least have equal access to the premesis (currently something like 30% of the phonestations are claimed to be "out of space" by Telia, but they can still build-out new services themselves as they prioritize their own equipment).
-- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se
Current thread:
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?", (continued)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Matthew Crocker (Nov 15)
- RE: What do we mean when we say "competition?" David Schwartz (Nov 15)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Owen DeLong (Nov 15)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Sean Donelan (Nov 15)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Owen DeLong (Nov 15)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Sean Donelan (Nov 15)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" David Barak (Nov 15)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Owen DeLong (Nov 15)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Sean Donelan (Nov 16)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]) Michael . Dillon (Nov 15)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]) Mikael Abrahamsson (Nov 15)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]) Owen DeLong (Nov 15)
- RE: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]) David Schwartz (Nov 15)
- RE: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]) Owen DeLong (Nov 15)
- RE: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]) Sean Donelan (Nov 15)
- RE: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]) Owen DeLong (Nov 16)
- RE: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]) David Schwartz (Nov 16)
- RE: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]) Michael . Dillon (Nov 16)
- RE: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]) Owen DeLong (Nov 16)
- RE: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]) David Schwartz (Nov 15)
- RE: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]) Owen DeLong (Nov 16)