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Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?"


From: David Barak <thegameiam () yahoo com>
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:04:12 -0800 (PST)




--- Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
--On November 15, 2005 7:25:54 AM -0800 David Barak
<thegameiam () yahoo com> 
wrote:
--- Matthew Crocker <matthew () crocker com> wrote:

I think what is really represented there is that
because
they own an existing network that was built with
public
subsidy and future entrants have no such access to
public
subsidy to build their own network, ...

Sean's post correctly identified the problem with this
assertion, so I won't 

The government should recognize that the existing
build
has actually been paid for mostly by public subsidy
anyway
and as such, should require the ILECs to split into
two
separate divisions.  

You mean the existing FIBER build was mostly paid by
public subsidy?  Do you have a reference for that?

One division would be a
wholesale
only infrastructure delivery company that would
maintain
the physical infrastructure.  As part of this,
ownership
of the physical infrastructure in place would be
transferred to an appropriate local civil body
(city,
county, district, etc.) and said body should have an
initial 5 year contract with the infrastructure
portion
of the ILEC to provide existing services on a
provider-
neutral basis (same price to all ILECs, Clecs,
etc.).

At the end of that 5 year contract, the maintenance
of
the infrastructure should be up for bid, and, if the
existing ILEC infrastructure portion can't win the
bid,
they are out of luck.

I don't know how familiar you are with what the
government contracting process is like, but the word
"unpleasant" comes to mind: it's long, hard, and
cumbersome.  Your model would substantially increase
the amount of government contracting required, so you
would need to be able to show a benefit to society of
corresponding magnitude.  

Right, but, faced with potential competition, they
are
notorious for temporarily lowering prices well below
sustainable levels in order to eliminate said
competition.

Are you alleging that the ILECs/RBOCs are providing
services below cost?  If so, call a regulator.  If
not, while the profits may be lower than desired by
the ILEC/RBOC, it's certainlly "sustainable"

The '96 telecom act did nothing to take the
last
mile infrastructure out of the hands of the existing
ILEC.

You are correct.  However, the '96 telecom act did
give lots of other companies the OPPORTUNITY to build
their own last mile access.  Your proposal actually
drives toward a more monopolistic, regulated
environment.

However, for any given last-mile buildout, the
people should retain title to the infrastructure(s)
and management should be by a carrier-neutral party
under contract to the people.  (yes, practically
speaking, s/people/government/, but, I use the
term people to remind us that the government is
supposed to be acting as our proxy for such things).
If a company wants to deploy new infrastructure,
they
should have equal access to right-of-way to deploy
it.
However, such access should include a mechanism for
transfer of ownership (with appropriate
compensation)
of said infrastructure to the people for carrier
neutrality after some fixed period of time at
the option of the people.

So Verizon should be prohibited from building out
FTTH?  I assume that your approach of "the Government
owns all layer 1" would also include 802.11, GSM,
CDMA, and all other network types, right?  If not, why
not?  

Now, the ILEC can continue to provide
service at the same price, but, they no longer have
a cost-basis advantage or the ability to delay,
defer, interfere with CLEC installs on the same
infrastructure.

Any interference is currently unlawful, and all of the
companies regulated under sections 271 and 272 have
extensive procedures in place to prevent it.  If
you've got specific complaints about a specific
company, you should be talking to a regulator.

So, to summarize - far less than "all" of the
ILEC/RBOC infrastructure was "paid for with public
funds." (as opposed to user fees), you'd argue for far
greater government participation in the marketplace,
and the removal of any competition for layer 0/1
services, in favor of competition at layers 2 and
higher.  Why is that good again?


David Barak
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