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Re: Definition of P2P (was Feinstein)
From: Dave Dennis <dmd () speakeasy org>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 17:12:24 -0700 (PDT)
With bots that were widely available at the time, yes. +------------------------- + Dave Dennis + Seattle, WA + dmd () speakeasy org + http://www.dmdennis.com +------------------------- On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Bora Akyol wrote:
Sorry, was it possible to search for a file from > millions of storage nodes in IRC? Bora-----Original Message----- From: Dave Dennis [mailto:dmd () speakeasy org] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 5:04 PM To: Bora Akyol Cc: 'Martin J. Levy'; 'Sean Donelan'; nanog () merit edu Subject: RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P /dcc send <nick> filename peer to peer sharing, on irc, since 1991. Napster simply implemented the IRC protocol's DCC function, with a better command set / GUI. +------------------------- + Dave Dennis + Seattle, WA + dmd () speakeasy org + http://www.dmdennis.com +------------------------- On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Bora Akyol wrote:I think we need to define what P2P is before we can address this. IMHO, P2P started with NAPSTER, yes before that there wasWWW, gopher,ftp, files by email, bitnet, x/y/z modem, bbs (dating myself here), but the large scale bandwidth usage that is seen startedwith NAPSTER.P2P I would define as distributed file sharing withdatabase like searchcapabilities. If you define it in this context, the bandwidth characteristics of P2P is a lot closer (but on a higherscale) than thebandwidth characteristics of a traditional web surfer.Hence, ADSL inparticular and asymmetric data comm in general hamper P2P. Bora-----Original Message----- From: Martin J. Levy [mailto:mahtin () mahtin com] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 4:13 PM To: Sean Donelan Cc: Bora Akyol; nanog () merit edu Subject: RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Sean,There were lots of FTP mirrors around. Every Sun workstation could have a Anonymous FTP. Ofcourse, the problemwas every Sun workstation could be an Anonymous FTP :-)... but you forgot to mention that filtering and firewalls and NAT were not in common use, hence everywhere was accessible from everywhere. P2P was all there was. Martin
Current thread:
- Re: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P, (continued)
- Re: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Jeff Wheeler (Aug 30)
- Re: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 30)
- Re: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Scott A Crosby (Aug 30)
- Re: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Fred Baker (Aug 30)
- RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Bora Akyol (Aug 30)
- RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Sean Donelan (Aug 30)
- RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Martin J. Levy (Aug 30)
- RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Bora Akyol (Aug 30)
- RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Dave Dennis (Aug 30)
- Definition of P2P (was Feinstein) Bora Akyol (Aug 30)
- Re: Definition of P2P (was Feinstein) Dave Dennis (Aug 30)
- Re: Definition of P2P (was Feinstein) David A. Ulevitch (Aug 30)
- RE: Definition of P2P (was Feinstein) Bora Akyol (Aug 30)
- Re: Definition of P2P (was Feinstein) Rob Nelson (Aug 31)
- Re: Definition of P2P (was Feinstein) Daniel Reed (Aug 30)
- RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Owen DeLong (Aug 30)
- Re: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Petri Helenius (Aug 31)
- Re: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 31)
- RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Ted Fischer (Aug 31)
- Re: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Christopher L. Morrow (Aug 30)