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RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P


From: Dave Dennis <dmd () speakeasy org>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 17:04:13 -0700 (PDT)


/dcc send <nick> filename

peer to peer sharing, on irc, since 1991.

Napster simply implemented the IRC protocol's DCC function,
with a better command set / GUI.



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+ Dave Dennis
+ Seattle, WA
+ dmd () speakeasy org
+ http://www.dmdennis.com
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Bora Akyol wrote:


I think we need to define what P2P is before we can address this.

IMHO, P2P started with NAPSTER, yes before that there was WWW, gopher,
ftp,
files by email, bitnet, x/y/z modem, bbs  (dating myself here),
but the large scale bandwidth usage that is seen started with NAPSTER.

P2P I would define as distributed file sharing with database like search
capabilities. If you define it in this context, the bandwidth
characteristics of P2P is a lot closer (but on a higher scale) than the
bandwidth characteristics of a traditional web surfer. Hence, ADSL in
particular and asymmetric data comm in general hamper P2P.


Bora


-----Original Message-----
From: Martin J. Levy [mailto:mahtin () mahtin com]
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 4:13 PM
To: Sean Donelan
Cc: Bora Akyol; nanog () merit edu
Subject: RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the
Benefits of P2P


Sean,

There were lots of FTP mirrors around.
Every Sun workstation could have a Anonymous FTP.  Of
course, the problem
was every Sun workstation could be an Anonymous FTP :-)

... but you forgot to mention that filtering and firewalls
and NAT were not in common use, hence everywhere was
accessible from everywhere.  P2P was all there was.

Martin





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