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Re: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs?
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong sj ca us>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:40:22 -0700
As much as I like the idea of blacklisting the RIAA (and think it's probably a good thing to do on principle), I don't believe that it will actually help. The RIAA, itself, doesn't use the net for revenew, or, really, much of anything. What few uses they do have could easily be served through disposable dialup accounts. It is the RIAA member companies, such as Sony (one of the biggest offenders), Arista, Geffen, etc. which are getting their revenue through the net. Unfortunately, no provider can defend turning off Sony as a rational business decision. Your customers wouldn't tolerate it or stand behind you on it. (If anyone wants to prove me wrong, I would very much enjoy being wrong on this). As such, I support a blockade of RIAA addresses on the net. However, if it is done as a group effort (BGP feed, etc.), be very careful and have lawyers review the process to avoid getting charged with collusion, etc. Remember, the RIAA has _LOTS_ of lawyers, and if you cut their net access, they'll also have _LOTS_ of time to chase you. This is probably a good thing, if you're willing to take that risk. I'd much rather see them wasting their time on this than the things they have been doing. On the other hand, if they are allowed to go far enough, eventually, there will be a great backlash against them, and they may lose more ground than we are currently trying to prevent them from gaining. In any case, it will be interesting to watch. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: $12,000 per person registration fee (was RE: Eat this RIAA), (continued)
- Re: $12,000 per person registration fee (was RE: Eat this RIAA) Owen DeLong (Aug 22)
- Re: $12,000 per person registration fee (was RE: Eat this RIAA) Robert A. Hayden (Aug 22)
- RE: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Jeff Ogden (Aug 22)
- RE: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Nigel Clarke (Aug 22)
- Re: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 22)
- RE: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Nigel Clarke (Aug 22)
- RE: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Andy Dills (Aug 22)
- RE: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Jeff Ogden (Aug 22)
- RE: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Miles Fidelman (Aug 21)
- RE: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Dan Hollis (Aug 21)
- Re: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Owen DeLong (Aug 22)
- Re: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Rob Healey (Aug 22)
- Re: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Vincent J. Bono (Aug 22)
- Re: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Stephen J. Wilcox (Aug 22)
- Re: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Barry Shein (Aug 22)
- Re: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Dan Hollis (Aug 22)
- Re: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Larry Rosenman (Aug 22)
- RE: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Daniel Golding (Aug 22)
- Re: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Andy Dills (Aug 22)
- Re: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? David Schwartz (Aug 22)
- Re: Eat this RIAA (or, the war has begun?) - Why not all ISPs? Paul Wouters (Aug 22)