Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion

["Derek J. Balling" <dredd () megacity org>]

"Clearly" many companies have found that 'outsourcing dialup adds a 
layer of necessary security to the mail server', so instead of just 
opening their mail servers to the world, they have found a cost of 
doing business that way is a slight inconvenience in the way mail is 
sent, either via POP-before-SMTP, or via having the user use their 
local dialup's SMTP server.

TANSTAAFL, Dean. You want the cheap convenience of outsourced dialup, 
the price is that securing the mail server requires a little effort. 
If you don't want that hassle, then you put in your own dialups.

This is not quantum physics, this is simply a cheaper solution not 
necessarily being an EASIER solution. You want Cheap and Easy which 
doesn't happen.

D

At 5:15 PM -0500 1/9/00, Dean Anderson wrote:
> Around 05:28 PM 1/8/2000 -0800, rumor has it that Owen DeLong said:
>  >
>  >Noone has disputed that relays are necessary.
>  >
>  >I am as yet unconvinced that open relays are necessary.
>
> Thats nonsensical. Clearly, if one is going to offer outsourced services
> for which relays are necessary, one must operate open relays.
>
>                 --Dean
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