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Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion
From: "Derek J. Balling" <dredd () megacity org>
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:55:49 -0800
This is where it starts to get really entertaining. Dean wants to go after netgate, because he can't go after their customer. The customer is not doing anything illegal where the customer is. Netgate is required to comply with uS law in so far as they are a common carrier which provides carriage to/from the united States. Dean may actually be able to cause them significant grief, unfortunately, but it is extremely unlikely that he will be able to do anything to the people he is actually trying to shut down. Worse yet, depending on NZ law, Dean my be able to demand under US law that netgate take action which is illegal under NZ law against their customer who has an contract in NZ and which has not violated NZ law.
Netgate may have an easy out (possibly, I haven't investigated) in that oftentimes companies will incorporate separately in many of the countries they do business in (I don't know WHY, although I suspect it makes bookkeeping significantly easier when it comes to tax law). If Netgate has done this, then Netgate (US) can point to Netgate (NZ) and say "That's their company, talk to them..." at which point Netgate/NZ tells the US to go pound sand.
I sympathize with netgate in this case.
Don't we all? :) D
Current thread:
- .procmailrc recipie WAS Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion, (continued)
- .procmailrc recipie WAS Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Forrest W. Christian (Jan 08)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Owen DeLong (Jan 08)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Greg A. Woods (Jan 08)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Mr. James W. Laferriere (Jan 08)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion melinda b. thompson (Jan 08)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Greg A. Woods (Jan 08)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Dean Anderson (Jan 08)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 08)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Alex P. Rudnev (Jan 09)
- Spam, Law and Reality Charles E. Yow, Esq. (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Dean Anderson (Jan 08)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 08)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Dean Anderson (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion I Am Not An Isp (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Deepak Jain (Jan 09)
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- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Hank Nussbacher (Jan 10)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Owen DeLong (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Dean Anderson (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Jim Popovitch (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Derek J. Balling (Jan 09)
- Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion Shawn McMahon (Jan 10)