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Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed?


From: Jeremy Porter <jerry () freeside fc net>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:57:08 -0500


In message <199810010127.SAA16555 () condor lvrmr mhsc com>, "Roeland M.J. Meyer" 
writes:
At 06:35 PM 9/30/98 -0400, Steven J. Sobol wrote:
On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 04:19:44PM -0500, Jeremy Porter wrote:

Not that I would advocate such activity, but unless there
exists an extradition treaty that allows for computer trespass
or denial of service attacks, I imagine that a few weeks of
being hacked and DoS attacks would have them reconsidering
the fee's that they charge to spam houses. 

I hope you're kidding.

This statement is an order of magnitude dumber than anything Barry's
contributed to this thread.

Agreed! SPAM-L has determined, over years of operation (including getting
CyberPromo busted out of Agis), that the most effective policy is
reasonable complaint, followed by blackholing (a la RBL). Any "Cracker" or
DoS attacks simply open you up for criminal charges and actually place the
spam-haus in a favorable light wrt LEOs. They then become the "oh so
innocent and helpless" victim. Also, there are a lot of TO SLDs that aren't
spam-hauses. The normal SPAM complaint process to their upstream providers
usually does the trick, regardless of what domain they're in.

So what you are saying is that Barry has a perfectly functional
method of dealing with the problem and all the rest of this is a complete
and utter waste of our time.
Mr Sobol's comments doubly so, as they add no new information.

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